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Old 11-08-2016, 12:11 PM
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Default 2017 scca cam rules - are published yet?

At the Town Hall meeting in Lincoln, Raleigh mentioned that the changes to the 2017 CAM rules would be out around the first of November. I haven't seen anything on the SCCA website yet. Has anyone heard anything on what rules will be changed or introduced or when they will be published? Just curious.
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When I talked with Raleigh, I was told they'd be out by Thanksgiving...and to expect minimal to no changes.
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Originally Posted by eric1855
When I talked with Raleigh, I was told they'd be out by Thanksgiving...and to expect minimal to no changes.
Looks promising to keep the rules the same for next year. Thanks Eric.
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i was hoping they would at least split cam-s into modern and traditional, but oh well.
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Originally Posted by jstewart10
i was hoping they would at least split cam-s into modern and traditional, but oh well.
This subject was brought up at the Lincoln Town Hall meeting. The numbers of vintage Corvettes (C1-3) competing in CAM-S does not warrant a class split at this time. Although, the subject was briefly discussed if there was a class for vintage Corvettes maybe the numbers would grow to support a split.

This subject is not dead. They will keep an eye on this and see if more vintage Corvettes compete in CAM in the future.

Making additional classes is something that SCCA is against. I believe if any of the CAM classes are going to be split it will be CAM-C.
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My opinion is that they should at least have class weight splits; such as 2800lb and up and 2800lbs and less. Especially if tube chassis and kit cars are allowed.
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FWIW I still believe that the HUGE weight advantage given to Cobra's (real or kit) is ridiculous.

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FWIW I still believe that the HUGE weight advantage given to Cobra's (real or kit) is ridiculous.

There were 4-5 Cobras at Nationals. A couple of the Cobra drivers knew what they were doing. Although, it looked like the weight difference would be a big disadvantage against the C4 and newer Corvettes, that was not the case. The Corvettes did very well against the Cobras.

Rumor has it that Scott and Bruce may compete in CAM-S next year. We'll see what happens running against the Cobras next year.

I heard today that the California CAM Challenge event next year will be at Jack Murphy in March.

Tom or Richard - what can you tell us about next year?
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There is no possible way to compete against a 600 lb lighter, smaller car in auto ross unless the small car is just being developed or driven well. They need to fix this. Of do this after I sold my cobra.
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Ps, that's not necessarily a criticism of cobra guys currently running. GM did a good job engineering vetted. The cobras not so much, so it's not easy to get a cobra really working. That said, my pos cobra, on nittos, and with absolutely horrendous handling and brakes, was still as fast as national trophy Ss guys on Hoosiers.
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Originally Posted by theseal
Ps, that's not necessarily a criticism of cobra guys currently running. GM did a good job engineering vetted. The cobras not so much, so it's not easy to get a cobra really working. That said, my pos cobra, on nittos, and with absolutely horrendous handling and brakes, was still as fast as national trophy Ss guys on Hoosiers.
There ya go, for an organization that goes out of their way to create new classes in the name of "fairness" they have really "messed" this one up. Fix it b4 it has to be protested away.



I already sent a letter, just for the guy(s) that are going to post that.
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Bottom line; you can't defy the laws of physics. In my observation and research these are the factors that will determine how competitive a vehicle will be; Tires, Driver, Suspension Efficiency, Weight, and Pwr to Weight Ratio. There are other factors and forces that have an impact, but these are what I consider to be the main ones; and in that order.
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Originally Posted by Nokones
There were 4-5 Cobras at Nationals. A couple of the Cobra drivers knew what they were doing. Although, it looked like the weight difference would be a big disadvantage against the C4 and newer Corvettes, that was not the case. The Corvettes did very well against the Cobras.

Rumor has it that Scott and Bruce may compete in CAM-S next year. We'll see what happens running against the Cobras next year.

I heard today that the California CAM Challenge event next year will be at Jack Murphy in March.

Tom or Richard - what can you tell us about next year?
I was hoping Scott and Bruce would be back in the Cobra for a few events next year. I never got the chance to run against him last year because they were always in the GT3.
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SCCA published the 2017 Match Tour schedule today and the schedule listed the March 4/5 weekend at San Diego which, I understand is the same date and location as the California CAM event.

Since the official CAM schedule hasn't been published yet, I wonder if the California CAM event will be on a different date. Anyone know what is going on?

I hope they (SCCA) will publish the new rules soon so I can plan accordingly.
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Well the CAM challenge is a math tour so it honestly makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted by dhowdy
Well the CAM challenge is a math tour so it honestly makes a lot of sense.
The CAM events run under the "Math" Tour format is actually a lot of fun. I like the different format.

Speaking of "Math" they always add those damn cones to my times. I wish they would subtract those cones for me.

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Originally Posted by Nokones
The CAM events run under the "Math" Tour format is actually a lot of fun. I like the different format.

Speaking of "Math" they always add those damn cones to my times. I wish they would subtract those cones for me.
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Originally Posted by l98tpi
Hi Bob:

Are going to stay with the C4 or run the C6 next year?
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2017 rules

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1479402119

Minimum for non-vettes up to 2450, vette reduces to 2900.

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