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Here is what Toyo Customer Service sent me on Jan. 6th! This was an earlier communication.
"Thank you for contacting Toyo Tires USA. The estimated release date for the Proxes R888R 345/30ZR19 is set for the end of this month, early next month. Once it is made available it will be on our web-site.
Sincerely,
Consumer Relations
Toyo Tire U.S.A. Corp.
5665 Plaza Drive Suite 300
Cypress, CA 90630
800-442-8696 "
I don't know why we cant get a straight answer. Hopefully their on the ship.
I've recently tried the R888R's on the track, on my 2nd car - Lotus Elise.
The Lotus comes stock with AD048's, in the past i've had tried 888's which were not that good.
The R888R's are quite amazing. I have the GG compound (which is the harder then the other type). Even in damp conditions (no standing water) - I was shocked by how warm the tires got. In the dry - they warm up extremely fast and can take a good beating (old 888's would grease out after 2 laps).
I do think however though - in a hot/warm day with the vette's these tires will easly overheat after a few laps of abuse. While Nitto's you can pretty much hammer either way.
My recommendation would be:
- For lightweight track toys - R888 in any temp and damp
- For V8's - depending on driving style and goal (lap time - R888R, sustained session - NT01). For damp R888R
I've recently tried the R888R's on the track, on my 2nd car - Lotus Elise.
The Lotus comes stock with AD048's, in the past i've had tried 888's which were not that good.
The R888R's are quite amazing. I have the GG compound (which is the harder then the other type). Even in damp conditions (no standing water) - I was shocked by how warm the tires got. In the dry - they warm up extremely fast and can take a good beating (old 888's would grease out after 2 laps).
I do think however though - in a hot/warm day with the vette's these tires will easly overheat after a few laps of abuse. While Nitto's you can pretty much hammer either way.
My recommendation would be:
- For lightweight track toys - R888 in any temp and damp
- For V8's - depending on driving style and goal (lap time - R888R, sustained session - NT01). For damp R888R
Thanks for the review. What do you think of the 888r for street driving. I want something that will stick when I get aggressive. Now the car just spins. I'm between these and the nt05r's
Thanks for the review. What do you think of the 888r for street driving. I want something that will stick when I get aggressive. Now the car just spins. I'm between these and the nt05r's
I drive the Lotus daily and these tires get to a happy temp very quickly even on street. However, there has been a few days in Seattle in which it has been pretty cold and the tires turned into a brick.
I think if you are not driving <35F these can be driven daily.
In the rain (seattle) i've seen no issues in light rain/damp.
There has been times i get to the office parking lot, tires/car all wet...i touch the tire and its warm!
I've recently tried the R888R's on the track, on my 2nd car - Lotus Elise.
The Lotus comes stock with AD048's, in the past i've had tried 888's which were not that good.
The R888R's are quite amazing. I have the GG compound (which is the harder then the other type). Even in damp conditions (no standing water) - I was shocked by how warm the tires got. In the dry - they warm up extremely fast and can take a good beating (old 888's would grease out after 2 laps).
I do think however though - in a hot/warm day with the vette's these tires will easly overheat after a few laps of abuse. While Nitto's you can pretty much hammer either way.
My recommendation would be:
- For lightweight track toys - R888 in any temp and damp
- For V8's - depending on driving style and goal (lap time - R888R, sustained session - NT01). For damp R888R
I'm not sure just because the R888Rs heat up fast that means they overheat quickly too. It's not necessary that they have a narrow temperature range as they might just have a wider range of usability. I also assume starting off at a lower pressure it will take longer for them to reach operating Temps?
I only track during the winter anyways because in Texas the car just gets so hot within a lap or three that nothing works anymore. Brakes are the big factor.
tell me about your Lotus? I've been obsessed with those cars.
I'm not sure just because the R888Rs heat up fast that means they overheat quickly too. It's not necessary that they have a narrow temperature range as they might just have a wider range of usability. I also assume starting off at a lower pressure it will take longer for them to reach operating Temps?
I only track during the winter anyways because in Texas the car just gets so hot within a lap or three that nothing works anymore. Brakes are the big factor.
tell me about your Lotus? I've been obsessed with those cars.
Yes, i think you are probably right. I think they can take more abuse then the previous 888 - but i do suspect in a hot day, with V8 a NT01 can deliver more laps without melting away....especially in Texas.
Lotus's are great little cars. Switching from the Vette to Lotus in the day same day - couple things you notice right away: Everything feels nimble, no more of that addicting torque, but you can brake later, carry more speed into corners and even feel the front tires getting up to temp as the wheel gets heavier (no electronic/hydro steering).
That is the car that i learned how do drive, i have to say - if i started tracking with a vette it would have taken me longer to get up-to-speed. It is easier to learn with a slower car.
Btw these little cars are not that slow - for reference, similar conditions at Ridge motorsports park (up in WA) - The GS does 1:49's while the Elise does 1:55's. So you are looking at ~6 seconds diffrence which is quite impressive for a 190hp car (well ofcourse ~2000 pounds)
I've heard the new Evora 400's are pretty spectacular and out qualify the Cayman GT4's, etc.. but they are way out of my price range.
The only track I've had my Corvette on is called Harris Hill, it was built by the same guy that owned the local Lotus dealership so it's sort of custom-made for those kind of cars. And I can only get up to about 128 mph in my Vette. I did get a ride in an older Elise out there and it was something else thru the turns. For that particular track it was a very fast car. It also felt like a death trap!
I too have been admiring the Evora 400 but frankly I think it's overpriced for what you're getting. And at this point it's only a couple hundred pounds lighter than a Corvette.
I chatted with Tirerack today who says Toyo has no plans to release the tire in our sizes until 2018 or 2019. I realize they are probably wrong, but that is what they said. Really wish we had some concrete information as I randomly found a nail in one of my tires and so now I'm down to my spare set of Michelins with the track season approaching soon. May just go with NT01s.
Well I emailed Toyo this morning and received the following immediate reply, which is very similar to others above. So back to waiting.
"
Thank you for contacting Toyo Tires USA. Yes, Toyo Tires is currently in production with the Proxes R888R in size 345/30ZR19 (105Y) part# 104350 and are hoping to have product available in the near future. While we cannot offer a definite date of release we are hoping production will arrive in the next month or two."
Sincerely,
Consumer Relations
Toyo Tire U.S.A. Corp.
5665 Plaza Drive Suite 300
Cypress, CA 90630
800-442-8696
Was just told the 345/30x19 R888R should be available for order this month, by Toyo.
To order from TOYO or they will be in Stock with tire dealers? I have new wheels coming in two weeks and really want tires around the same time. I can grab a set of nt05/nt05R's for about 1050 shipped right now but have to make a decision in the next day or two. I don't know if I should lose the deal and wait on the toyo or take the nittos and be happy. The car is mainly street driven and an occasional drag strip event.
Gah!! I was just about to order NT01 as I can't wait much longer. Now Toyo says the "end of the month". Well they have until March 31st and then I'm done waiting!!
To order from TOYO or they will be in Stock with tire dealers? I have new wheels coming in two weeks and really want tires around the same time. I can grab a set of nt05/nt05R's for about 1050 shipped right now but have to make a decision in the next day or two. I don't know if I should lose the deal and wait on the toyo or take the nittos and be happy. The car is mainly street driven and an occasional drag strip event.
I tried to clarify that. and they repeated "they will be available for order..."
Now if you can order them from Toyo, you can order them from one of their distributors too (they are price protected so the price is the same anyways I'm pretty sure), but how long the wait will be I can't say.
“The Proxes R888R starts with the same advanced ‘GG‘ R-compound as the R888, providing the familiar quick warm up characteristics and progressive breakaway predictability that racers have come to love,” says Jay Jones of Toyo. “The major improvements come from the more advanced casing design that utilizes a Rayon ‘Super-High’ turn up carcass with steel side plies, producing an aggressive asymmetric tread pattern with a strong sidewall, a wide center rib for increased steering response, and a large outer shoulder contact patches to further improve mid-corner lateral grip for faster lap times, improved consistency and more driver confidence.”
i guess that answers the compound question.. article is a decent read for those interested in the tire. i just ordered a set for my integra track car..
03-06-2017, 05:59 PM
article is a decent read for those interested in the tire. i just ordered a set for my integra track car..