Toyo R888R
#142
Melting Slicks
Ordered a set today for my C7Z. I'm running 19x10, 19x12. I went with 295/30/19,345/30/19. I was wondering if I should have went with the 305's in the front. I ordered from Phils. How fast does he ship? Thanks
#143
Melting Slicks
Fair enough. I have also seen them in the past at lower prices from overseas, but they go very quickly which is probably what happened.
What is your home track? Mine is Watkins Glen. I'll be back there again in a few weeks for 6 days and expect my NT01s to be done somewhere in the middle. I think I will take your advice and grab another set of NT01, but I am very much interested in your feedback on the R888R. Are both your Z06s C6s?
What is your home track? Mine is Watkins Glen. I'll be back there again in a few weeks for 6 days and expect my NT01s to be done somewhere in the middle. I think I will take your advice and grab another set of NT01, but I am very much interested in your feedback on the R888R. Are both your Z06s C6s?
Last edited by Quickshift_C5; 05-08-2017 at 04:18 PM.
#144
Le Mans Master
In my case 275s just look better and clear everything so that's what I run up front with the 345s in the rear.
Phil's tire service is SLOWWWWW. Good folks that are a great option when you are not in a hurry to get your tires. About 3 weeks ime.
#145
Sr.Random input generator
I'm curious how that front tire works out for you on a 10" wide wheels (same width fronts I have). Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like if the front tires are bulging a lot you don't get as crisp of a turn in. It's also not a linear relationship between width and traction. What I mean is that a 10% wider tire isn't going to result in 10% more mechanical grip since the amount of downward force from the weight of the car is the same just more spread out.
In my case 275s just look better and clear everything so that's what I run up front with the 345s in the rear.
Phil's tire service is SLOWWWWW. Good folks that are a great option when you are not in a hurry to get your tires. About 3 weeks ime.
In my case 275s just look better and clear everything so that's what I run up front with the 345s in the rear.
Phil's tire service is SLOWWWWW. Good folks that are a great option when you are not in a hurry to get your tires. About 3 weeks ime.
Bear in mind, 315s are on relatively small 10.5" wheels. The increase in traction was so immense, that my stock springs couldn't stop my car from leaning too much in corners, despite having GM's C7 T1 sways/shocks. I switched to coilovers, and the combination saved me 4-5 seconds in a 2 minute course.
I did research on the benefit of putting much wider tires without increasing wheel width before I did the switch. A vendor in CA tried this with their Honda and Miata cars. Their verdict was that when they increased tire width within the recommended range, their times dropped similarly, with or without wider wheels, but wider wheels provided better feedback. Sure, feedback is important, but it is OK to compromise when there's just not enough space for a wider wheel without running into excessive rubbing issues.
#146
Melting Slicks
I'm curious how that front tire works out for you on a 10" wide wheels (same width fronts I have). Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like if the front tires are bulging a lot you don't get as crisp of a turn in. It's also not a linear relationship between width and traction. What I mean is that a 10% wider tire isn't going to result in 10% more mechanical grip since the amount of downward force from the weight of the car is the same just more spread out.
In my case 275s just look better and clear everything so that's what I run up front with the 345s in the rear.
Phil's tire service is SLOWWWWW. Good folks that are a great option when you are not in a hurry to get your tires. About 3 weeks ime.
In my case 275s just look better and clear everything so that's what I run up front with the 345s in the rear.
Phil's tire service is SLOWWWWW. Good folks that are a great option when you are not in a hurry to get your tires. About 3 weeks ime.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...88-s-pics.html
#148
Melting Slicks
Wow, that's the first time I've heard of anyone using 325's on front. Would love more info on this. Running them on the OEM 10.5 wheels sounds a bit absurd, there is already stretch with the 315's.
Moving to a lightweight aftermarket 10x11 wheel with 325's all around would be fantastic...
Moving to a lightweight aftermarket 10x11 wheel with 325's all around would be fantastic...
#149
Le Mans Master
My wheels are 18x10.5 front, 19x11.5 rear. I first tried NT01s at 275/35/18 front, 305/30/19 rear. I thought I could use more traction, and later switched to same brand tire (NT01) at 315/30/18 front and 325/30/19 rear.
Bear in mind, 315s are on relatively small 10.5" wheels. The increase in traction was so immense, that my stock springs couldn't stop my car from leaning too much in corners, despite having GM's C7 T1 sways/shocks. I switched to coilovers, and the combination saved me 4-5 seconds in a 2 minute course.
I did research on the benefit of putting much wider tires without increasing wheel width before I did the switch. A vendor in CA tried this with their Honda and Miata cars. Their verdict was that when they increased tire width within the recommended range, their times dropped similarly, with or without wider wheels, but wider wheels provided better feedback. Sure, feedback is important, but it is OK to compromise when there's just not enough space for a wider wheel without running into excessive rubbing issues.
Bear in mind, 315s are on relatively small 10.5" wheels. The increase in traction was so immense, that my stock springs couldn't stop my car from leaning too much in corners, despite having GM's C7 T1 sways/shocks. I switched to coilovers, and the combination saved me 4-5 seconds in a 2 minute course.
I did research on the benefit of putting much wider tires without increasing wheel width before I did the switch. A vendor in CA tried this with their Honda and Miata cars. Their verdict was that when they increased tire width within the recommended range, their times dropped similarly, with or without wider wheels, but wider wheels provided better feedback. Sure, feedback is important, but it is OK to compromise when there's just not enough space for a wider wheel without running into excessive rubbing issues.
#150
Le Mans Master
This guy is running 295/30/19's up front and is happy with the results.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...88-s-pics.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...88-s-pics.html
As far as performance goes, I don't know if there are any gains here or not when utilizing a wheel that is a it narrow for the 295 tires. I will probably never know!
I'm sure eventually the R888R will be released in a 285/30x18 which would be a good fit on my car. But with the lower height would I really be gaining any actual additional contact patch? I dunno.
Also wider tires up front sort of suck when it starts to rain if you care about that sort of thing.
#151
Le Mans Master
Wow, that's the first time I've heard of anyone using 325's on front. Would love more info on this. Running them on the OEM 10.5 wheels sounds a bit absurd, there is already stretch with the 315's.
Moving to a lightweight aftermarket 10x11 wheel with 325's all around would be fantastic...
Moving to a lightweight aftermarket 10x11 wheel with 325's all around would be fantastic...
#152
Le Mans Master
Rare as hen's teeth!
Both are 345/30x19s and are lying on a flat surface. That's the old R888 on the left and the new R888R on the right that is 5/8" wider overall.
Both are 345/30x19s and are lying on a flat surface. That's the old R888 on the left and the new R888R on the right that is 5/8" wider overall.
Last edited by Suns_PSD; 05-12-2017 at 06:50 AM.
#153
Sr.Random input generator
You need to mount them on the same wheels to get an accurate measurement. Keep in mind, all manufacturer measurements always come off of a tire mounted on a wheel, usually in the middle ballpark of the recommended wheel width range.
Last edited by X25; 05-11-2017 at 04:27 PM.
#154
Le Mans Master
My opinion is that if you are measuring the tread as I did, and the rim is approximately the correct size for the tires being discussed, it doesn't make a hill of beans difference whether it's mounted or not.
In this case, when mounted on the same rim, the R888R turned out to be 5/8" wider when mounted on the rim than the previous R888.
In this case, when mounted on the same rim, the R888R turned out to be 5/8" wider when mounted on the rim than the previous R888.
#155
Sr.Random input generator
My opinion is that if you are measuring the tread as I did, and the rim is approximately the correct size for the tires being discussed, it doesn't make a hill of beans difference whether it's mounted or not.
In this case, when mounted on the same rim, the R888R turned out to be 5/8" wider when mounted on the rim than the previous R888.
In this case, when mounted on the same rim, the R888R turned out to be 5/8" wider when mounted on the rim than the previous R888.
#156
Le Mans Master
Last edited by Bluefire; 05-12-2017 at 03:21 PM.
#157
Le Mans Master
Of course. The tread doesn't stretch or shrink.
So I drove with a full set of R888Rs with the top off yesterday up to 80 mph. I would say the road noise is average to below average. Certainly quieter that the high efficiency tires that many cars run.
The pavement your on certainly makes a difference. I hit a bridge with grooves on it and the noise level jumped up notably.
So I drove with a full set of R888Rs with the top off yesterday up to 80 mph. I would say the road noise is average to below average. Certainly quieter that the high efficiency tires that many cars run.
The pavement your on certainly makes a difference. I hit a bridge with grooves on it and the noise level jumped up notably.
Last edited by Suns_PSD; 05-13-2017 at 08:06 AM.
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#158
Le Mans Master
Toyo R888Rs 345/30 x 19 on '08 base Vette.
#160
Le Mans Master
My car on E85 has somewhere in the 510rwhp range but also has 4.10s.
They certainly hook up much better than my very worn old R888s but I still killed them off completely during a 25-60 mph roll yesterday. Lots of factors in that. Heat in the road, asphalt or concrete, etc.
On my old tires my car was pretty much on ice up to about 50 miles per hour in any gear. I swear I don't know how these Z06 guys drive around with 650 rear wheel horsepower on pilot sports.
They certainly hook up much better than my very worn old R888s but I still killed them off completely during a 25-60 mph roll yesterday. Lots of factors in that. Heat in the road, asphalt or concrete, etc.
On my old tires my car was pretty much on ice up to about 50 miles per hour in any gear. I swear I don't know how these Z06 guys drive around with 650 rear wheel horsepower on pilot sports.
Last edited by Suns_PSD; 05-14-2017 at 09:41 PM.
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