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Old 05-18-2017, 11:44 AM
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thanks! yeah i chalked that one up to mostly just looks good. but the only way to find out was to try it. worth about 75% looks, and 25% cooling.

never heard of that site. ill check it out, thanks.
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Thanks much for documenting everything so well. Having zero knowledge or experience with sort of thing, it is an eye opener!

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I may have missed it, but what group do you run with at TWS? I'm out there with Chin Motorsports.
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im yellow group.
but when i got the vette i asked to step down to the blue group because i was off pace learning the new car.
im up to speed now but have stayed in the blue group out of greed. the blue group gets half of its sessions all by itself, the yellow group always has to share the track with white, or blue.
so in the sake of open track ive been staying in blue with the vette.

im headed to TWS this weekend.

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im yellow group.
but when i got the vette i asked to step down to the blue group because i was off pace learning the new car.
im up to speed now but have stayed in the blue group out of greed. the blue group gets half of its sessions all by itself, the yellow group always has to share the track with white, or blue.
so in the sake of open track ive been staying in blue with the vette.

im headed to TWS this weekend.
Wish I was going too...haven't been out there since last November, but I'll see you there next month! That's a good idea to move down a group while learning a new car. I think I'll move down to blue too while I get used to the Z06 and since I'm going to be rusty. Have fun this weekend!
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was doing some research on high end coolant, and found out water is the best coolant there is. (i was embarrassed i had no clue about this) so i flushed the radiator 3-4 times to get all the orange Dex-cool out. i also fell for the commercial for the "as seen on tv" hyper lube/coolant additive. it was only $7 so i figured why not.


i also removed the baffle under the bumper on the Z to the radiator seen here


wanted to add some bottom breathing like an Fbody, so i picked up some aluminum sheet and got to cutting and bending. sadly i could only find .025" sheet locally. wasnt sure if it was gonna help or hurt but i was gonna find out. u can just see the rad and oil cooler


sadly as suspected the .025" sheet aluminum stood no chance against 150mph winds. just bent back.

the good news is the radiator flush/water did some good. i saw 10-30* cooler temps depending on time of day, and how hard i pushed. ambient temps were even 5* hotter.

Took everyones advice and ran the belts (lap and shoulder) threw the seat holes. while i had them out i took the buckles to a upholstery shop and had them sewed together so there was no chance of them slipping/sliding.


picked up a new set of tires, which meant cleaning out the rubber inside the rims


headed to the track last weekend.
Saturday after lunch the brakes and tires were cooled off, i pushed hard immediately and ran twin 1:56s on my first two outlaps!


these are those laps. i also added an external microphone to the gopro right above the license plate.
on the second lap i ran a 1:56.3. i really think im capable of a 1:55.x on that lap i got in too deep into T10 and slide the front tires and had to wait to recover, and also had to delay getting on power for the front stretch to get around a lemons car.

saturday night we got major storms there. couldnt get into the track until nearly 11am sunday. tunnel had almost 3' of water in it.




sunday afternoon i had a bird fly in front of me in turn 10. couldnt see if he came out or not once i passed. well on the next lap i saw his body laying there on track. really bummed me out and has been bothering me since.

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was doing some research on high end coolant, and found out water is the best coolant there is. (i was embarrassed i had no clue about this) so i flushed the radiator 3-4 times to get all the orange Dex-cool out. i also fell for the commercial for the "as seen on tv" hyper lube/coolant additive. it was only $7 so i figured why not.
In competition we are forbidden from runing glycol coolant due to the slippery nature and difficulty cleaning up spills on track. Straight distilled water plus Redline "water wetter" is the most common way to go. I would bet the hyperlube is a similar product to water wetter, basically it acts in similar fashion to dishsoap and breaks the surface tension of the water for more surface contact with the block and heads.

Make sure it has some sort of lubricant to keep your water pump in good shape, if you're not sure get a bottle of cyclo water pump lube and put in half a bottle. It's like $2 on amazon.

Nice write up.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:57 PM
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also while i was there, was offered a ride in a Radical SR3!


about 1300 lbs and 200 hp. (hyabusa motor)
unfortunately i didnt hit the button on the gopro hard enough so it never recorded. i did get my helmet cam footage though.

he did mention he would have to get used to my weight, adding 200 lbs to a only 1300 lb car is a huge percentage so i believe him.
there was no warm up or cool down, he just went straight to business.

no words or video can describe this damn thing. every thing i know about cars and physics went right out the window. insanely capable was an understatement. it must make as much downforce as it weighs because there were no laws of physics, centrifical force, momentum, or gravity in that damn thing. he could be fully side loaded cornering so hard, and at any time slam on the brakes or swerve in tigher and it would just stick.
Corners where im slaming on the brakes, turning in, coasting to apex, and gently apply throttle on apex, he was doing foot to the floor and just steering!
I now know why he wears a carbon fiber helmet, head restraints, and a full containment sent. i litterally could not hold my head up it corners SO damn hard, i had to hold onto my helmet and head the entire run with my arm. by the last two laps my neck was hurting pretty damn bad, but i smiled right threw it.

as any good driver the first thing i noticed he used every last inch of the track everywhere no matter what the consequences were. at the end of the straight i run 150mph, with all that down force he was toping out at 120mph. but that didnt matter he did most of the infeild damn near flat out. on a perfect lap i run 1:56, on a perfect lap he runs 1:39s! 17 seconds faster despite the 30 mph handicap on the straight.

i just cant discribe it, i didnt know that was physically possible by a machine.

heres the vid. in the last two laps(9 minute mark) i could feel he was pushing harder, and you can see us come up on two C5s and see the grip/performance difference. just insane.
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my stock exhaust/mufflers broke an internal weld on the drivers side as was rattleing and vibrating like crazy. found a used B&B bullet exhaust on the forums and picked it up and installed it. the muffler is actually the tiny bullet at the top of the hump, the large canister is just a hollow resonator to eliminate the high pitches from the exhaust note.




also picked up a Dewitts radiator, twice as thick. has built in trans cooler like factory, but opted not to get the built in oil cooler after talking with other racers. to keep it seperate air to oil cooler.




stock rad removed, last pic i took


also remade my under bumper rad scoop, this time out of .06 aluminum.
made a redneck sheetmetal brake by bolting it to my bench with some angle alum.




unfortunately after the rad install and refilling the system, ironically the car over heated and we found out why.
melted center plug on the fan controller, a common problem on these cars, and had no airflow threw the new rad.


so i removed the stock plug, and not wanting it to keep happening i installed individual spade connectors for the 3 wires.

new spades and extensions on the fan controller side. yes thats dual 12G speaker wire


connected with fan motor side and heat shrinked


that fixed that and fans fired right up. still need to get the fan tune turned down though.

then i had a code after the rad/exhaust install and had also lost reverse gear somehow. p0449 "Evap Emissions control vent valve/solenoid circuit" which happens to be right near the exhaust in the back. spent two days under the car only to find one nicked wire, not cut, but insulation nicked. 3rd day i googled it. turns out the #13 fuse controls both the "evap vent valve solenoid" AND the reverse lock out. you guessed it, was blown when i nicked that wire putting in the exhaust. frustrating couple days, but an easy fix in the end remedying both.


after ignoring everyone telling me my fog light brake ducts wouldnt get cooling because the air is flowing over that area, not into it because its so far around the corner of the nose. well after several track days, i think they were right i wasnt happy with the cooling. so i made some scoops.








im sorta proud of them but watch your shins!
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Man !!! You're so handy compared to me !!!!
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You going to TWS with PDS in mid August?
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unfortunatly no. i didnt get signed up in time to garantee a garage, and i dont think i could do august without one.
sadly i made that decition before getting the email about them shutting down the back half of the track after september 1
so i might try to do the 1 day open track on Sunday August 20th.

ive now got wife/birthday plans that weekend (12/13) now. ironically in college station. gonna be weird going there without the car to race....
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Really fun following your build and speed adventures. Too bad most of the photo links are broken. Any chance of uploading the images to your posts? The site supports photos.
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yes i plan to re-upload them all. theres 137 of them that i have to download individually and then re-upload. but yes i do plan to reinstate the thread.
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Went back to the track last weekend.

Saturday was a bust. had a bad valve stem/TPMS sensor. cost me most of the day, several trips back and forth from track to discount tire, before finally getting it fixed. Also snapped a wheel stud in the process. by this time the rains from the Hurricane hit and flooded the track.
barely got out of the tunnel with the jeep. water was up to the bumper. ripped off the skid plate.


Sunday all was good!
Radiator
New radiator was doing some good. initial testing was showing about a 20* drop in temps, as a side bonus, with the motor being cooler, the oil temps were 10* cooler too. I didnt pay as much attention in the afternoon when temps rose, but i was definatly able to push harder longer, and recovery was quick. New spade connectors on the fan wires worked flawlessly.

Exhaust
New exhaust sounded great. had several people come up to me and comment on it as well. but its almost too loud. well its not so much the decibles as it is the frequency. it gave a weird feeling in your ear, like a vibration or pressure. with the helmet on it was just barely tolerable with the helmet off it was quite uncomfortable. by the end of the day, even with helmet on, my ears werent happy, they were swolen and hurting. alot of pressure inside my ear drum and couldnt hear ****, but a constant hum.

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got lots of comments on these. but they worked well. definatly were cooling better. never had an issue. however im still not happy with initial bite and pedal feel. different pads and stainless lines are in the future i think.

Sunday after lunch had one of the most fun sessions ever.
4 of GMs baddest bitches, and 4 even drivers.
C6 Z07 Carbon on Michelin Sport Cup 2s
Z28 on NT01s
C7 Z06 on Pirelli Slicks
C6 Z06 on Rival S's (camera car, me)

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Went back to the track last weekend.

Saturday was a bust. had a bad valve stem/TPMS sensor. cost me most of the day, several trips back and forth from track to discount tire, before finally getting it fixed. Also snapped a wheel stud in the process. by this time the rains from the Hurricane hit and flooded the track.
barely got out of the tunnel with the jeep. water was up to the bumper. ripped off the skid plate.


Sunday all was good!
Radiator
New radiator was doing some good. initial testing was showing about a 20* drop in temps, as a side bonus, with the motor being cooler, the oil temps were 10* cooler too. I didnt pay as much attention in the afternoon when temps rose, but i was definatly able to push harder longer, and recovery was quick. New spade connectors on the fan wires worked flawlessly.

Exhaust
New exhaust sounded great. had several people come up to me and comment on it as well. but its almost too loud. well its not so much the decibles as it is the frequency. it gave a weird feeling in your ear, like a vibration or pressure. with the helmet on it was just barely tolerable with the helmet off it was quite uncomfortable. by the end of the day, even with helmet on, my ears werent happy, they were swolen and hurting. alot of pressure inside my ear drum and couldnt hear ****, but a constant hum.

Brake Ducts

got lots of comments on these. but they worked well. definatly were cooling better. never had an issue. however im still not happy with initial bite and pedal feel. different pads and stainless lines are in the future i think.

Sunday after lunch had one of the most fun sessions ever.
4 of GMs baddest bitches, and 4 even drivers.
C6 Z07 Carbon on Michelin Sport Cup 2s
Z28 on NT01s
C7 Z06 on Pirelli Slicks
C6 Z06 on Rival S's (camera car, me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1OXBWvbNsk
Great videos! Thanks for sharing. Your car sounds great Man, that last video I was really holding you up.... sorry for not giving you a quicker point by You should have honked at me, lol!
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haha, it was a little long coming, but some time we get focused behind the wheel. but i also enjoying being behind folks, i like photography and videography. youll notice in the beginning i was purposely staying behind the C6 and Z28, cause i wanted them in my view/video.

that was the most fun session ive ever had. for some reason the video didnt seem as exciting as i remember it in person, but it was still my favorite sesh to date. thanks for running with me!
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Went back to the track last weekend.

Saturday was a bust. had a bad valve stem/TPMS sensor. cost me most of the day, several trips back and forth from track to discount tire, before finally getting it fixed. Also snapped a wheel stud in the process. by this time the rains from the Hurricane hit and flooded the track.
barely got out of the tunnel with the jeep. water was up to the bumper. ripped off the skid plate.


Sunday all was good!
Radiator
New radiator was doing some good. initial testing was showing about a 20* drop in temps, as a side bonus, with the motor being cooler, the oil temps were 10* cooler too. I didnt pay as much attention in the afternoon when temps rose, but i was definatly able to push harder longer, and recovery was quick. New spade connectors on the fan wires worked flawlessly.

Exhaust
New exhaust sounded great. had several people come up to me and comment on it as well. but its almost too loud. well its not so much the decibles as it is the frequency. it gave a weird feeling in your ear, like a vibration or pressure. with the helmet on it was just barely tolerable with the helmet off it was quite uncomfortable. by the end of the day, even with helmet on, my ears werent happy, they were swolen and hurting. alot of pressure inside my ear drum and couldnt hear ****, but a constant hum.

Brake Ducts

got lots of comments on these. but they worked well. definatly were cooling better. never had an issue. however im still not happy with initial bite and pedal feel. different pads and stainless lines are in the future i think.

Sunday after lunch had one of the most fun sessions ever.
4 of GMs baddest bitches, and 4 even drivers.
C6 Z07 Carbon on Michelin Sport Cup 2s
Z28 on NT01s
C7 Z06 on Pirelli Slicks
C6 Z06 on Rival S's (camera car, me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1OXBWvbNsk
I had a great time at the track. It was my first time at TWS. Hope to improve this next time out with better tires. here is what mine looked like after our session. Looking forward to seeing you all at the next Track event.
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wow. yeah i could tell you were a talented driver, those tires were definatly holding you back. you were amazing for the first time driving a new track wow.
i wish your crazy hard shimmy braking would have showed up in the vid. that was nuts.
and your down shift on the banking in T1. Ive never seen anyone else do those!

looks like youve got camber dialed really close though. ive got a ways to go.
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I had a great time at the track. It was my first time at TWS. Hope to improve this next time out with better tires. here is what mine looked like after our session. Looking forward to seeing you all at the next Track event.
Wow, and I thought I had room to complain about my tires not holding up well for the two days. Those are toast! It was definitely a hard weekend for tires, but mine don't look anything like that. I hope you got more than the two days on those.

Scrubs were the most cost effective way for me to go with the Stingray, but I'm not sure about for the Z06. My fronts still look ok, but the rears are done....hopefully just a bad set. Fingers crossed the next set lasts longer, or I may have to buy a go cart and start racing with my 11 year old. He sure did like that Z28. Every time I looked up, he was in their garage taking pictures of it. See y'all next month!
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