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Old 08-28-2017, 11:31 PM
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Long story short, I ran into a problem I didn't realize was a problem with my build plan.
I'm planning on running a set of Penske 8300s as a coilover and I'm looking for a solution to mount the setup. I see how the factory upper rubber mount is a less than ideal way to go about it. After a bit of searching I saw that Hardbar had a great clevis style upper mount, but since it appears they aren't around anymore that is out. However that looked like the best upper mount solution to me.
If I keep the stock style shock with the pin top rather than the eye style upper I found the Banski upper mount that is a potential solution.

So my questions here are are there any other companies making a clevis style mount for the C5/C6, or is the Banski mount a good solution?

I realize getting a mount made is another solution, but then I'd have no idea where to start looking to get them made.
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Strano makes a delrin kit specified for Koni's but might fit the Penske's too.

http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...318&ModelID=12
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Anze monoballs.
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Anze monoballs.
have any information?
Old 08-29-2017, 06:32 PM
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have any information?
I don't have any pictures but it is a monoball inserted into a machined housing. They do require drilling 6 holes to mount each. 6 in each front shock upper mount area of the chassis and 6 in each rear shock upper plate. Talk to Angelo at 1-516-671-3960. His webpage: https://www.anzesuspension.com/
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I had the same problem when I built my racecar, so I made these. Just add a rod end to the shock. Give me call if you want a set. I also made something similar for the front. 630-231-8059.
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:40 PM
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Are you piecing together your own kit? I would also recommend calling Anze Suspension. They'll sell you the Penskes with all the proper mounts and whatnot already made up.

We also did some offset clevii for a customer who bought Penskes elsewhere but had no way to mount them. Not the most cost effective solution when Anze has something on the shelf ready to go.


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Contact Vansteel. They made the Penske mounts for Hardbar.
12285 West Street
Clearwater, Florida 33762 USA
727-561-9199
800-418-5397
https://www.vansteel.com/index.cfm?f...p=3042&ID=3191

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Old 08-30-2017, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark@AMT Motorsport
Are you piecing together your own kit? I would also recommend calling Anze Suspension. They'll sell you the Penskes with all the proper mounts and whatnot already made up.

We also did some offset clevii for a customer who bought Penskes elsewhere but had no way to mount them. Not the most cost effective solution when Anze has something on the shelf ready to go.


I'm just trying to do what I need to get the suspension on the car. If I can get everything together and know that it all works together, that'd be the preferred route. I'll give Anze a ring tomorrow.

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Contact Vansteel. They made the Penske mounts for Hardbar.
12285 West Street
Clearwater, Florida 33762 USA
727-561-9199
800-418-5397
https://www.vansteel.com/index.cfm?f...p=3042&ID=3191

And yet another option that I couldn't find while scouring the internet!

Thanks for the heads up on where to go to get this rolling fellas, I'm a little lost when it comes to finding parts on this car.
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Originally Posted by wstaab
Contact Vansteel. They made the Penske mounts for Hardbar.
12285 West Street
Clearwater, Florida 33762 USA
727-561-9199
800-418-5397
https://www.vansteel.com/index.cfm?f...p=3042&ID=3191



What type of spindles are you running?


I would also reroute that shock line its hitting at full drop.
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Be careful of losing to much shock travel with those style mounts.
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Originally Posted by 3X2
Be careful of losing to much shock travel with those style mounts.
what would be considered as too much travel lost, and taking that into consideration what would be the ideal mounting solution?
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Originally Posted by jcarothers
what would be considered as too much travel lost, and taking that into consideration what would be the ideal mounting solution?
Any amount that would cause the shock to bottom out in full jounce. For example say the shock, with stock upper mount has a 4" stroke and you now lower the upper mount by 1", the shock now has a 3" stroke. Now, will the shock bottom out? If so, will it be damaged? With the shock bottomed, what now is the spring rate? Questions to ponder.
My choice for mounts is Anze's monoballs. Pricey, yes. Really none better. If you can find C4 rear upper shock mounts to use with the monoballs, even better.
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Any amount that would cause the shock to bottom out in full jounce. For example say the shock, with stock upper mount has a 4" stroke and you now lower the upper mount by 1", the shock now has a 3" stroke. Now, will the shock bottom out? If so, will it be damaged? With the shock bottomed, what now is the spring rate? Questions to ponder.
My choice for mounts is Anze's monoballs. Pricey, yes. Really none better. If you can find C4 rear upper shock mounts to use with the monoballs, even better.
I can't tell if this is meant to be informational or not. I'm just looking for a tried and true setup for this suspension and mounting solutions. It seems to me a lot of people have gone the route of the clevis mount without issue. I see how some shock stroke will be removed by effectively lengthening the upper mount, moving it that much closer to the lower. However, is this a constant worry in the C5 suspension when converted that bottoming the shock by adding that length to the mount is a real problem?
Also, is there any visual representation of the Anze monoball upper mount?
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LG drop spindles.
Shocks are custom built by Penske for the mounts and application.
Track only car. 800 lb springs. Shock travel in front is not a problem.
Rear is close but you use a 1/2 height bump stop and shock travel is not an issue.


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Originally Posted by jcarothers
I can't tell if this is meant to be informational or not. I'm just looking for a tried and true setup for this suspension and mounting solutions. It seems to me a lot of people have gone the route of the clevis mount without issue. I see how some shock stroke will be removed by effectively lengthening the upper mount, moving it that much closer to the lower. However, is this a constant worry in the C5 suspension when converted that bottoming the shock by adding that length to the mount is a real problem?
Also, is there any visual representation of the Anze monoball upper mount?
My reply was more to get you thinking. Anyways, here is a picture. These have been installed on multiple SCCA national championship winning Corvettes. I suggest calling Angelo and discussing with him the options available.
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Originally Posted by 3X2
My reply was more to get you thinking. Anyways, here is a picture. These have been installed on multiple SCCA national championship winning Corvettes. I suggest calling Angelo and discussing with him the options available.
How do those mount, inside or outside of the factory mount? I imagine outside for the shock stroke benefit.

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on top. Fronts similar except they mount on top of the frame rail.
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on top. Fronts similar except they mount on top of the frame rail.
That's an interesting setup, curious as to how difficult it is to drill those extra holes?
In any case, I tried to give him a call yesterday and no one picked up. Left an email, but I'll try calling again next week. I'm going to try to get their opinion on which is the better mounting solution. Either way, you guys have been super helpful.
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Or, when you order your shocks from Penske, you tell them how you're mounting them. They adjust travel accordingly.

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