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#2721
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psi increased: Pirelli cannot play on the camber because of the parc fermé and could only have an influence on the rear pressures to try to protect the tires, which suffered more than the manufacturer expected, this is the reason for this decision by Pirelli.
Other news: Merco decided to change the water pump of Bottas, beginning of leak, the change was made on the car of the leader Hamilton to avoid a problem during the race. The regulations allow it provided it is the same specification
Other news: Merco decided to change the water pump of Bottas, beginning of leak, the change was made on the car of the leader Hamilton to avoid a problem during the race. The regulations allow it provided it is the same specification
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#2722
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Vettel...mon Dieu, this guy is crazy.
Fantastic race. Hamilton at Mexico ? Very happy for the Finn, 113 races, 3 races before leaving Féfé and finally a win. Max P18 to P2 ? He did it ! Hamilton need just 5 points to have the 5th crown
Fantastic race. Hamilton at Mexico ? Very happy for the Finn, 113 races, 3 races before leaving Féfé and finally a win. Max P18 to P2 ? He did it ! Hamilton need just 5 points to have the 5th crown
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#2724
Team Owner
#2725
Le Mans Master
But at least he'll have company...
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6..._the_stewards/
I hadn't heard of a team exceeding fuel limits in more than a season; what happened?
Have a good one,
Mike
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6..._the_stewards/
I hadn't heard of a team exceeding fuel limits in more than a season; what happened?
Have a good one,
Mike
#2727
Team Owner
It's official Ocon DQ'd, so Hartley moves into 10th and could go higher if KMagg gets done too.
#2728
Race Director
Thread Starter
This has to be the Race-of-the-Year.
A legit 3-way race for the win...all the way to the final corner.
If only every race would be like this one.
COTA got a real treat from the F1 Circus this year.
It's been FIVE years since Kimi's last win.
LH and Max had a helluva battle at the end.
It's hard to believe this was an innocent screw-up...or if it is, maybe Haas should consider screening future employees for basic math skills.
I wonder if DR can cancel his Renault contract now?
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...fter_COTA_DNF/
What a joke Renault's powerunits are...
A legit 3-way race for the win...all the way to the final corner.
If only every race would be like this one.
COTA got a real treat from the F1 Circus this year.
It's been FIVE years since Kimi's last win.
LH and Max had a helluva battle at the end.
I wonder if DR can cancel his Renault contract now?
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...fter_COTA_DNF/
What a joke Renault's powerunits are...
#2729
Le Mans Master
I wonder if DR can cancel his Renault contract now?
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...fter_COTA_DNF/
What a joke Renault's powerunits are...
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...fter_COTA_DNF/
What a joke Renault's powerunits are...
Have a good one,
Mike
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Ocon out of the classification.At the beginning of the race, the VJM11 exceeded the authorized fuel consumption limit of 100 kg/h, which was checked by a flow meter.
Mike, what's strange is that this kind of failure, total engine shutdown, only happens at RBR : specific problem to RBR following the extrem design of Newey around the PU ? even if the PU of Viry-Châtillon is not a power monster, it must be recognized that some RBR failures do not occur on the black and yellow car
Mike, what's strange is that this kind of failure, total engine shutdown, only happens at RBR : specific problem to RBR following the extrem design of Newey around the PU ? even if the PU of Viry-Châtillon is not a power monster, it must be recognized that some RBR failures do not occur on the black and yellow car
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#2731
Le Mans Master
BTW, a quick editorial on COTA. Last year's race had some great racing back in the pack, highlighted by Verstappen's pass/overrule; the crowd went wild on the pass, and the boos were roaring after the penalty was announced. This year had, as y'all have pointed out, had a great race at the end.
When COTA was designed and built, there was a lot of complaining about "just another Tilke track". It sure doesn't race like one.
Have a good one,
Mike
When COTA was designed and built, there was a lot of complaining about "just another Tilke track". It sure doesn't race like one.
Have a good one,
Mike
#2732
Team Owner
This has to be the Race-of-the-Year.
A legit 3-way race for the win...all the way to the final corner.
If only every race would be like this one.
COTA got a real treat from the F1 Circus this year.
It's been FIVE years since Kimi's last win.
LH and Max had a helluva battle at the end.
It's hard to believe this was an innocent screw-up...or if it is, maybe Haas should consider screening future employees for basic math skills.
I wonder if DR can cancel his Renault contract now?
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...fter_COTA_DNF/
What a joke Renault's powerunits are...
A legit 3-way race for the win...all the way to the final corner.
If only every race would be like this one.
COTA got a real treat from the F1 Circus this year.
It's been FIVE years since Kimi's last win.
LH and Max had a helluva battle at the end.
It's hard to believe this was an innocent screw-up...or if it is, maybe Haas should consider screening future employees for basic math skills.
I wonder if DR can cancel his Renault contract now?
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...fter_COTA_DNF/
What a joke Renault's powerunits are...
And of Ricciardo's 6 DNF, 2 were PU, 1 was gearbox, 2 were accidents and 1 was the clutch.
Verstappen has had 3 DNFs, 2 accidents and 1 PU.
So that's 5 amongst 4 drivers amongst 18 races. So 5 DNFs out of a total of 72.
Last edited by Thunder22; 10-21-2018 at 07:26 PM.
#2733
Team Owner
Not sure where you're getting that conclusion from. Sainz hasn't had 1 DNF due to PU all season. Hulk has had 5 DNFs only 1 due to PU.
And of Ricciardo's 6 DNF, 2 were PU, 1 was gearbox, 2 were accidents and 1 was the clutch.
Verstappen has had 3 DNFs, 2 accidents and 1 PU.
So that's 5 amongst 4 drivers amongst 18 races. So 5 DNFs out of a total of 72.
And of Ricciardo's 6 DNF, 2 were PU, 1 was gearbox, 2 were accidents and 1 was the clutch.
Verstappen has had 3 DNFs, 2 accidents and 1 PU.
So that's 5 amongst 4 drivers amongst 18 races. So 5 DNFs out of a total of 72.
I did the math above.
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#2734
Race Director
Thread Starter
All customer teams relay this info to manufacturers well before the season starts.
Manufacturers do sign off on the designs before handing over PUs to the teams.
No manufacturer wants to be put in a situation where the product earns a poor reputation.
The way Max kept fighting back wheel-to-wheel was awesome to see.
They may be the 2 best drivers in the sport today.
When COTA was designed and built, there was a lot of complaining about "just another Tilke track". It sure doesn't race like one.
#2735
Race Director
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#2736
Team Owner
Renault has known from the very beginning just how RB was going to package their powerunits.
All customer teams relay this info to manufacturers well before the season starts.
Manufacturers do sign off on the designs before handing over PUs to the teams.
No manufacturer wants to be put in a situation where the product earns a poor reputation.
The LH/Max duel definitely will go down as a season highlight.
The way Max kept fighting back wheel-to-wheel was awesome to see.
They may be the 2 best drivers in the sport today.
I have always felt COTA was one of the best roadracing circuits anywhere.
Ask McLaren how much they like Renault's powerunits.
All customer teams relay this info to manufacturers well before the season starts.
Manufacturers do sign off on the designs before handing over PUs to the teams.
No manufacturer wants to be put in a situation where the product earns a poor reputation.
The LH/Max duel definitely will go down as a season highlight.
The way Max kept fighting back wheel-to-wheel was awesome to see.
They may be the 2 best drivers in the sport today.
I have always felt COTA was one of the best roadracing circuits anywhere.
Ask McLaren how much they like Renault's powerunits.
#2737
Team Owner
Alonso DNF:
Canada exhaust
Monaco gearbox
France: rear left flat
Belgium: Airborne
Monza: Electronics
COTA: accident
so where is the Renault PU failing for Alonso?
Canada exhaust
Monaco gearbox
France: rear left flat
Belgium: Airborne
Monza: Electronics
COTA: accident
so where is the Renault PU failing for Alonso?
#2738
Le Mans Master
So, in summary:
The Renault PU isn't in the same league this season as Merc or Ferrari.
Ricciardo has had a lot of DNFs this year; some due to the PU, some not. Today's for example, could be some control interface between the PU and the car (in car video implies it just shut down). Or it could have been a total PU failure; I just haven't heard.
It does seem like he's had more problems than Verstappen has, so it may be something unique in his setup that's causing the headaches.
IMO his frustration/anger is also his demotion in RBR behind Verstappen, and everything that goes wrong just gets amplified. Hope he has a better career at Renault.
Have a good one,
Mike
The Renault PU isn't in the same league this season as Merc or Ferrari.
Ricciardo has had a lot of DNFs this year; some due to the PU, some not. Today's for example, could be some control interface between the PU and the car (in car video implies it just shut down). Or it could have been a total PU failure; I just haven't heard.
It does seem like he's had more problems than Verstappen has, so it may be something unique in his setup that's causing the headaches.
IMO his frustration/anger is also his demotion in RBR behind Verstappen, and everything that goes wrong just gets amplified. Hope he has a better career at Renault.
Have a good one,
Mike
#2739
Race Director
Thread Starter
dude, he said "take a hike or I"ll report you"
i'm dead serious. Still laughing. You just can't make this **** up.
i'm dead serious. Still laughing. You just can't make this **** up.
Sorry, ain't gonna bite...better luck next time.
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#2740
Race Director
Thread Starter
How MB's race strategy failed:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ble_backfired/
This analysis makes a lot of sense IMO.
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ble_backfired/
This analysis makes a lot of sense IMO.