sunsalem

And I would gladly supply the boot to the rear.

Couldn't agree more.
As a sport, F1 is, at its core, ENTERTAINMENT...NOT a testing ground for new technology for consumer cars for mega-corporations.

VetteDrmr

For your entertainment desires, I submit highlights from the Indycar COTA race this weekend:


Have a good one,
Mike

sunsalem

Boullier points the finger at Ron Dennis for McLaren's current problems:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...da_would_fail/
Dennis believed the past performance could be duplicated in the present.
This is a common error in business and life...Faith is a powerful emotion.

Renault wants to leave fossil fuels behind:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...hanger_for_F1/
Interesting thought, but the last time F1 went with an idea from Renault...just STFU Cyril.

Mick Schumacher will have his first official F1 test next week:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...eo_in_Bahrain/

sunsalem

Thanx for that.
You're right: a lot of passing and banging.

Setting up my DVR for the April 7th race at Barber...

sunsalem

Ferrari finished up a little bit of kit I've had them working for the last 10 years:


Will pick it up at the airport Thursday...

VetteDrmr

So, exactly where is FE gaining in popularity?

sunsalem

E-fuels may be a hot topic in Europe, not here so much.
I guess F1 could use cooking oil or something...

In the documentary I mentioned above on Dieselgate, European car companies (nearly all of them) used cheat devices to rig the testing the governments were using to check vehicle emissions.
Their air quality over there turns out to be horrible as a consequence.

D K

why doesn't f1 go to ethanol?

why?

D K

Still, 13 seconds a lap slower.....

VetteDrmr

Lower fuel density, which leads to either larger, slower, cars, or pit stops, with the attendant danger of pit fires. Plus ethanol flames are clear, so you can't see the fire.

No doubt. But, does it really matter? Maybe, maybe not.

Y'all have a good one,
Mike

D K

Yea thats the idea!

bring back pit stops! There is an idea��

clear flames?
i dont recall indy car having overly large number of pit fires..

oh yea. They used gravity feed instead of putting fuel under pressure��
there is an idea��

hmmm....all these problems in f1 can actually be corrected. Interesting

VetteDrmr

D K,

Yeah, I agree that it adds to the strategy, and Indycar has it pretty well implemented. BUT, there's one more reason F1 will never use ethanol: Indycar uses it.

Have a good one,
Mike

D K

is F3 slower than indy car now??

pjazz

I found this interesting that F1 cars are like 10 sec faster than Indy. This is one of the reasons I prefer F1 because they allow almost unlimited resources for teams. A lot of time competition lacks because of this but I'm more fascinated by technology.

It also seems like Indy car has somewhat adopted F1s type of qualifying.

sunsalem

Watching the Indycars going around COTA, I could tell visually they were slower....10 seconds apparently means a lot to the show.

D K

10 seconds? More like 13...


Where does indy come in compared to F2 and F3?


Edit. Looks like at Spa its 10 between F1 and F2

sunsalem

Rosberg and Wolff have some very interesting comments about Max:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...sist__Rosberg/
I believe they are close to the mark about MV.
Many of us have commented on his behaviour on-track saying pretty much the same thing (although using different words).

RB believes Ferrari had cooling problems in Australia:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ms_says_Marko/
If true, fixing it is often not easy.
It's possible it may take awhile.

Leaked pictures of proposed 2021 cars:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...sed_2021_cars/
Other than the winglets(?) over the front tires, the car doesn't look dramatically different.

We're getting closer to a Dutch GP:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...plan_approved/
With Max set to be a WDC fairly soon, I'm surprised the Dutch haven't stepped up more aggressively.
There is a lot of orange in the stands these days...

sunsalem

I never claimed to be a math genius...

sunsalem

VetteDrmr

And this is why I enjoy both of them. The absolute performance of F1 is amazing, although the pecking order at the top is usually pretty static (at least for the last 20 years or so), and the car count is fairly low.

Indycar is more restricted, but has tighter racing, more racing strategies, and doesn't seem to generate massive gaps. They also have much lower budgets, so a more diverse group of owners (although what those owners can do with the cars is, again, restricted). But their management, execution, etc. is unique.

Can you see the difference? Probably. But watching the vintage racing at COTA, or the F4 races, were all entertaining while being a lot slower.

Have a good one,
Mike