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Old 10-02-2017, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
I thought it was a good race, although I wonder if the failure in Kimi's car was the same as Vettel's (broken plenum). Haas was pretty much a non-player today, even though Magnussen was in the points until the pitstop.
Mags doesn't have a lot of friends right now:
http://www.planetf1.com/news/alonso-...nst-magnussen/

Magnussen’s Haas team boss Gunther Steiner has hit back, defending his driver on the basis that fans want to see a hard wheel-to-wheel battle.
“Alonso is a very charismatic and skilled driver,” he told Ekstra Bladet newspaper. “And if someone confronts him, then that’s how he reacts.
“I think both of them pushed it to the limit, which is what people want to see,” Steiner added.
He said Magnussen is right to be pushing hard on the track, tipping him to eventually emerge from his reputation as the ‘bad boy’ of F1.
“You have to go through tough periods and earn respect,” said Steiner.
“If you always move out of the way, people think they can walk over you. So you have your battles as long as you don’t overdo them or become a bully.
“So even if he gets a little of a bad reputation now, it can turn around later,” he added.


Suzuka is next week, then 2 weeks later I get to see my first F1 race at COTA!!! Woo Hoo!!!
I'm jealous (you'll have a great time).

Originally Posted by Erik L
Back to HAAS for a moment.

Did any one else get the feeling when listening to the interview with Gene that he was "complaining" to get the attention of Liberty and the FIA. He does not strike me as a whiner and maybe he has figured out that the only way to get their attention is to publicly complain.

I wonder if his and others airing of the issue will lead to changes. I have mixed feelings about where that might lead.
Here is a good article about just that:
https://www.pitpass.com/60275/The-re...f-a-budget-cap
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:44 AM
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MB putting the squeeze on Williams:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ms_short_list/

The conspiracy theorists are hard at work on the Stroll/Vettel bang-up:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6..._keep_his_4th/
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Mags doesn't have a lot of friends right now:
http://www.planetf1.com/news/alonso-...nst-magnussen/
Magnussen has made some dumb moves, and some amazing moves, like many excellent drivers in their early years.

But Alonso was complaining about KM, while being totally confident about his racing style against Vettel. I thought both events were just hard racing.

Racers gonna race!

I'm jealous (you'll have a great time).
Thanks!

Have a good one,
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
The conspiracy theorists are hard at work on the Stroll/Vettel bang-up:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6..._keep_his_4th/
Well, you have to admit that daily soap operas get their inspiration from F1!

But I did find it curious when Vettel put the steering wheel back on/in the driver's seat (couldn't tell), then went back and retrieved it. But nothing was mentioned about it on the broadcast, so I thought it was some new kind of rule.

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Technically, Vettel was in violation for running off with the steering wheel.
However, since this is F1, he might escape a penalty.
I don't think anyone wants to see the WDC decided by that.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Technically, Vettel was in violation for running off with the steering wheel.
However, since this is F1, he might escape a penalty.
I don't think anyone wants to see the WDC decided by that.
He said that the column was bent so he couldn't reattach the wheel. That, in combination with the track potentially being opened to spectators after the race and he didn't want them to take the loose steering wheel is why he took it.
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1st F1 race I attended, driver gave another a ride

great race
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Old 10-02-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mattastick
He said that the column was bent so he couldn't reattach the wheel. That, in combination with the track potentially being opened to spectators after the race and he didn't want them to take the loose steering wheel is why he took it.
I don't believe the first part, but I do the second.
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Originally Posted by mattastick
That, in combination with the track potentially being opened to spectators after the race and he didn't want them to take the loose steering wheel is why he took it.
Yeah, I didn't buy that one. I don't see any way officials would open up the track to the public with a stranded car just waiting for souvenir hunters.

I'm glad no penalty came down for that, but I do think SV got away with one there.

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Haas wants compensation for Grate-gate:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...rosjean_crash/


The bidding war for Max is heating up:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...or_Verstappen/


Williams shoot-out to determine Stroll's teammate next year:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...iams_shootout/


Ferrari boss bringing The Hammer (again):
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...e_intervening/


James Allen's analysis of why Vettel came up short:
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/...ottas-f1-role/
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
James Allen's analysis of why Vettel came up short:
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/...ottas-f1-role/
While reading about Vettel's fuel issue, a question came to mind: did F1 get rid of that stupid fuel flow regulation?

Also, glad to read that Vettel won't have to replace the gearbox (that incident was just awkward).

Have a good one,
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I don't really know...
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
While reading about Vettel's fuel issue, a question came to mind: did F1 get rid of that stupid fuel flow regulation?

Also, glad to read that Vettel won't have to replace the gearbox (that incident was just awkward).

Have a good one,
Mike
No. They currently have 2 fuel limits: A total fuel consumption for the entire race (105kg max) and an instantaneous fuel flow limit (I don't remember what the number is). But basically, what happened to Vettel was that they were running up against the first max (probably running less than 105kg to lighten the car, and were going to not have enough to finish the race).
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But basically, what happened to Vettel was that they were running up against the first max (probably running less than 105kg to lighten the car, and were going to not have enough to finish the race).
Ah, that makes sense. I thought that he was running harder to punch through traffic and pushed his fuel consumption too high. Same end result.

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Great race, definitely didn't expect the results. Haas should be reimbursed for the Grosjean incident. The team just didn't have the pace in Malaysia. I wonder if Gene wants to focus on the 2018 car at this point and is dedicating less time for upgrades? Is Ferrari taking their time giving the team upgrades? Obviously he won't tell me if I tweet the team =/

Glad to see some people on here are going to be at COTA. I will be there too in a couple of weeks time. 4th time (did 2013, 2015, 2016, and now 2017) there, and will be doing GA turn 11 yet again, because it is the best seat in the house for the cheapest price besides T9. We are bringing a couple of noobs so I'll be excited to see what they think of their first race.

I know its unlikely, but I hope Kubica wins the Williams seat.

Bring on Suzuka! Love that track

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NBC out ESPN in

http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/20...ia-rights/amp/

“Although we take great pride in having grown Formula One’s visibility and viewership since we became its exclusive U.S. media rights holder in 2013, this will be our last season with the series. In this case, we chose not to enter into a new agreement in which the rights holder itself competes with us and our distribution partners. We wish the new owners of F1 well.”

-NBC SPORTS GROUP-

https://blackflag.jalopnik.com/formu...ear-1819135364
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NBC out ESPN in

http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/20...ia-rights/amp/

“Although we take great pride in having grown Formula One’s visibility and viewership since we became its exclusive U.S. media rights holder in 2013, this will be our last season with the series. In this case, we chose not to enter into a new agreement in which the rights holder itself competes with us and our distribution partners. We wish the new owners of F1 well.”

-NBC SPORTS GROUP-

https://blackflag.jalopnik.com/formu...ear-1819135364

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