F1 Chat Thread
10-22-2018, 03:38 AM
#2741
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10-22-2018, 07:49 AM
#2743
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You made an obviously incorrect comment about the PUs, I provided a lot of info, which others asked for as well, questioning it and you get butthurt? Get a grip dude, there's nothing to "bite on", it's a forum for discussion, if you don't want to discuss, especially when proven wrong, go somewhere else, no one controls a thread just because they started it.
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10-22-2018, 07:49 AM
#2744
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So, in summary:
The Renault PU isn't in the same league this season as Merc or Ferrari.
Ricciardo has had a lot of DNFs this year; some due to the PU, some not. Today's for example, could be some control interface between the PU and the car (in car video implies it just shut down). Or it could have been a total PU failure; I just haven't heard.
It does seem like he's had more problems than Verstappen has, so it may be something unique in his setup that's causing the headaches.
IMO his frustration/anger is also his demotion in RBR behind Verstappen, and everything that goes wrong just gets amplified. Hope he has a better career at Renault.
Have a good one,
Mike
The Renault PU isn't in the same league this season as Merc or Ferrari.
Ricciardo has had a lot of DNFs this year; some due to the PU, some not. Today's for example, could be some control interface between the PU and the car (in car video implies it just shut down). Or it could have been a total PU failure; I just haven't heard.
It does seem like he's had more problems than Verstappen has, so it may be something unique in his setup that's causing the headaches.
IMO his frustration/anger is also his demotion in RBR behind Verstappen, and everything that goes wrong just gets amplified. Hope he has a better career at Renault.
Have a good one,
Mike
10-22-2018, 07:50 AM
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10-22-2018, 07:56 AM
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St. Jude Donor '17-'18-'19
We make relevant posts about F1 and certain somebody cries.
Why does the RB car literally fly around the Renault? Similar power and budgets but Renault is way more reliable. Is Newey shooting himself in the foot running the body that close to the engine. Is heat the cause of all of Riccardo's issues?
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10-22-2018, 08:01 AM
#2747
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We make relevant posts about F1 and certain somebody cries.
Why does the RB car literally fly around the Renault? Similar power and budgets but Renault is way more reliable. Is Newey shooting himself in the foot running the body that close to the engine. Is heat the cause of all of Riccardo's issues?
there are tons of articles about McLaren admitting their issues are all aero. So basically, if they fix the aero, with the PUs being equal, McLaren should be fighting for the top right next to RBR, MB and Ferrari. Which would be great.
But it's not the PUs screwing RBR and McLaren, it's the aero, tires, suspension, ride height, etc etc, and if 4 things each cause 1/4 of a second , well gee, that's a full second and they're right there in the hunt.
Hugs and kisses,
Skipper (I would prefer the professor, we'll have to work on that)
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10-22-2018, 08:05 AM
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St. Jude Donor '17-'18-'19
Dear LIttle Buddy,
there are tons of articles about McLaren admitting their issues are all aero. So basically, if they fix the aero, with the PUs being equal, McLaren should be fighting for the top right next to RBR, MB and Ferrari. Which would be great.
But it's not the PUs screwing RBR and McLaren, it's the aero, tires, suspension, ride height, etc etc, and if 4 things each cause 1/2 of a second , well gee, that's a full second and they're right there in the hunt.
Hugs and kisses,
Skipper (I would prefer the professor, we'll have to work on that)
there are tons of articles about McLaren admitting their issues are all aero. So basically, if they fix the aero, with the PUs being equal, McLaren should be fighting for the top right next to RBR, MB and Ferrari. Which would be great.
But it's not the PUs screwing RBR and McLaren, it's the aero, tires, suspension, ride height, etc etc, and if 4 things each cause 1/2 of a second , well gee, that's a full second and they're right there in the hunt.
Hugs and kisses,
Skipper (I would prefer the professor, we'll have to work on that)
10-22-2018, 08:06 AM
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10-22-2018, 08:10 AM
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St. Jude Donor '17-'18-'19
Dear LIttle Buddy,
there are tons of articles about McLaren admitting their issues are all aero. So basically, if they fix the aero, with the PUs being equal, McLaren should be fighting for the top right next to RBR, MB and Ferrari. Which would be great.
But it's not the PUs screwing RBR and McLaren, it's the aero, tires, suspension, ride height, etc etc, and if 4 things each cause 1/4 of a second , well gee, that's a full second and they're right there in the hunt.
Hugs and kisses,
Skipper (I would prefer the professor, we'll have to work on that)
there are tons of articles about McLaren admitting their issues are all aero. So basically, if they fix the aero, with the PUs being equal, McLaren should be fighting for the top right next to RBR, MB and Ferrari. Which would be great.
But it's not the PUs screwing RBR and McLaren, it's the aero, tires, suspension, ride height, etc etc, and if 4 things each cause 1/4 of a second , well gee, that's a full second and they're right there in the hunt.
Hugs and kisses,
Skipper (I would prefer the professor, we'll have to work on that)
So RBR is the only one hanging it all out and pushing the Renault engine to it's limits in both heat and performance. Newey must be the magic man to have that much of a performance advantage over the McLaren and Renault factory team.
I want to see what Honda brings next week. Really enjoying Gasley's adventures.
10-22-2018, 08:16 AM
#2751
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So, in summary:
The Renault PU isn't in the same league this season as Merc or Ferrari.
Ricciardo has had a lot of DNFs this year; some due to the PU, some not. Today's for example, could be some control interface between the PU and the car (in car video implies it just shut down). Or it could have been a total PU failure; I just haven't heard.
It does seem like he's had more problems than Verstappen has, so it may be something unique in his setup that's causing the headaches.
IMO his frustration/anger is also his demotion in RBR behind Verstappen, and everything that goes wrong just gets amplified. Hope he has a better career at Renault.
Have a good one,
Mike
The Renault PU isn't in the same league this season as Merc or Ferrari.
Ricciardo has had a lot of DNFs this year; some due to the PU, some not. Today's for example, could be some control interface between the PU and the car (in car video implies it just shut down). Or it could have been a total PU failure; I just haven't heard.
It does seem like he's had more problems than Verstappen has, so it may be something unique in his setup that's causing the headaches.
IMO his frustration/anger is also his demotion in RBR behind Verstappen, and everything that goes wrong just gets amplified. Hope he has a better career at Renault.
Have a good one,
Mike
10-22-2018, 08:20 AM
#2752
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So RBR is the only one hanging it all out and pushing the Renault engine to it's limits in both heat and performance. Newey must be the magic man to have that much of a performance advantage over the McLaren and Renault factory team.
I want to see what Honda brings next week. Really enjoying Gasley's adventures.
I want to see what Honda brings next week. Really enjoying Gasley's adventures.
RBRs DNFs aren't wholly around the PU, only 2 of DRs are PU related. And yes, RBR seems to have a significant aero advantage.
10-22-2018, 08:31 AM
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I have a good feeling about next season. If the non-mb/ferrari/rbr teams fix their aero, and with the new regs, we could actually see racing for the win from 6 teams instead of just 3.... but i'm an optimist....
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10-22-2018, 09:11 AM
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https://racer.com/2018/10/21/proving...-me-raikkonen/
Kimi's run yesterday was just as good as his run at Monza where his rear tires just gave up; this time he's up front and manages them to perfection. One is a win, the other isn't; both were outstanding.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/p...sters/3170980/
How that tire didn't explode is beyond me.
Have a good one,
Mike
Kimi's run yesterday was just as good as his run at Monza where his rear tires just gave up; this time he's up front and manages them to perfection. One is a win, the other isn't; both were outstanding.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/p...sters/3170980/
How that tire didn't explode is beyond me.
Have a good one,
Mike
10-22-2018, 09:13 AM
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St. Jude Donor '17-'18-'19
Not so sure about that. Optimism is a pretty weak word for 6 teams competing.
Just so much money and the rules are getting to where a Braun coming out and have a clear advantage for the whole season is non-existent. Really want Haas to get competitive but their drivers are just horrible.
Just so much money and the rules are getting to where a Braun coming out and have a clear advantage for the whole season is non-existent. Really want Haas to get competitive but their drivers are just horrible.
10-22-2018, 09:15 AM
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St. Jude Donor '17-'18-'19
https://racer.com/2018/10/21/proving...-me-raikkonen/
Kimi's run yesterday was just as good as his run at Monza where his rear tires just gave up; this time he's up front and manages them to perfection. One is a win, the other isn't; both were outstanding.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/p...sters/3170980/
How that tire didn't explode is beyond me.
Have a good one,
Mike
Kimi's run yesterday was just as good as his run at Monza where his rear tires just gave up; this time he's up front and manages them to perfection. One is a win, the other isn't; both were outstanding.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/p...sters/3170980/
How that tire didn't explode is beyond me.
Have a good one,
Mike
10-22-2018, 09:18 AM
#2758
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Not so sure about that. Optimism is a pretty weak word for 6 teams competing.
Just so much money and the rules are getting to where a Braun coming out and have a clear advantage for the whole season is non-existent. Really want Haas to get competitive but their drivers are just horrible.
Just so much money and the rules are getting to where a Braun coming out and have a clear advantage for the whole season is non-existent. Really want Haas to get competitive but their drivers are just horrible.
10-22-2018, 09:19 AM
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10-22-2018, 09:21 AM
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St. Jude Donor '17-'18-'19
I want to see how Torro does with the Torpedo coming back. Gasley has been driving his *** off and with him and MV next year I am thinking RBR will be a force to reckon with.
What about Leclerc in the Ferrari? Does he make it the whole season?