Pacembellum

Going to do my first track day pretty soon with my car after doing the Corvette owner School. What do you guys think of running it with the factory Super Sports vs getting a set of cup 2?

will I get more total laps from a set of take off cup 2? These are also really expensive but if they last longer it makes sense. I can't decide on whether I want 18's or 19's so probably just going to stick with the stock size for the next few months.

Stuman45

Not sure if it helps at all, but I only got two track days out of my Cup 2s that came on my Z07.

I think the school at spring mountain uses the SuperSports so my guess is they probably last a little longer than the Cup 2s.

Pacembellum

what course, session length, and whay did they look like after yhe two days? Totally corded or chunking??

village idiot

I went through mine quick. They just melt and get greasy. They also start to tear up and chunks come flying off. Even the Cup2 has that when you get them real hot. Michelin kinda sucks at heat.

Pacembellum

So managing Tire temps through varied lap Paces is going to be a must otherwise I'll just be destroying the tires

BEZ06

Your OE Super Sports will be just fine for your first track days.

After you've done 4 or 5 HPDE's you can start to think about some Sport Cup 2's.

IMHO, for your first track event in the car, you should be more concerned about getting some track brake pads.

Make sure you flush in a good DOT 4 brake fluid, and swap in some Mobil 1 15W-50, or if you can get it the new 0W-40.

I have a Z07 so it came with Sport Cup 2's, but I also have another set of wheels with Super Sports and have run them on the track. They are a VERY GOOD tire, and will work well for you until you've got a bit more experience and start to run them a lot harder.

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Mick14

I agree. You will never outdrive your Super Sports as a new tracker. No way. The brake fluid is the biggest thing you should worry about. Change oil to either of the listed above. Good to go.

Pacembellum

idk after 3 sessions on the 2nd day at spring mountain my super sports looked pretty beat, wish i had pics.

Poor-sha

There's a guy I see at the track all the time with a C7Z and he is always running Super Sports. I'm faster than he is but I bet he is doing well over 50 track days a year. I don't have a ton of track experience with them but I might try them at VIR next week if my scrubs run out.

village idiot

Be careful. Chunks started coming off mine when they got really hot.

BrunoTheMellow

They run like a 200 tw tire. Better than the hankook rs3s in grip but worse in heat. But they do have a lot of life. But so do the RS3s. I got a good 8 track days and 15k miles out of both. The PSS are actually quite fast and communicate very well. About a second faster than hankooks which are a go-to for casual Track days.

If you're not going all out for lap after lap after lap they will do fine enough. But if you plan on going hard for 10+ minutes at a time, they will show their weakness.

Like stated above. You need to manage heat with street tires. Do 3-4 fast laps but also 1-2 medium laps. Traffic will do this for you automatically.

TKOGTO

This

and this. and you're good to go.

Stuman45

My first day was 4, 20 minute sessions at Fontana (Auto Club Speedway). Cooler temps. One of my sessions was probably only 10 minutes as they ended it early.

My second day was at Chuckwalla 5, 30 minute sessions. Cooler temps. The tires were pretty much done after the 4th session. I lost all grip in the front and I took it real easy in the 5th session as I needed to drive home and didn't want to cord the tires.

They did not come apart or cord. They were just very worn on the outside edge. Fronts were really bad.

thebishman

Drop the psi on the MPSS down to around 26psi and you'll be fine. They'll be plenty fast for your first track day as others have mentioned. Get the alignment checked!!!!!

Racingswh

This is Andrew Aquilante on Super Sports. These lap times are faster than the current rules SCCA T1 lap record at this track.

T1 Dave Sanders Chevrolet Corvette 1:09.124 98.95 10/23/16

You will be fine using them.



Interestingly I am quicker in my Wife's Grand Sport on Super Sports than the current T2 lap record and I am not all that good. lol!!

tw78911sc

Use the PSI read out on your dash, you can feel when your tires go greasy and note the PSI. Lower the PSI and try to keep the PSI lower than the greasy point. You can use the gauge to let you know a lap or two before you hit the limit and do some cool down laps.

BrunoTheMellow

Ive said this multiple times but as a testament the super sports zp speed, I ran an average of 1.5 seconds quicker on stock mpss ZPs with 15k miles on a 1:25 lap track than brand new Hankook R-S3s, similar weather, consecutive track days. Granted the R-S3s run quite a bit narrower than the MPSS of the same size, like 10 mm front and 15 mm rear. Point is, they are supposed to be respectable 200 TW tires and they were much slower.

Pacembellum

Ok, hunting down a set of super sports to run on a brand new set of satin cup wheels.

i had wanted to go to 18 or 19's to drop 25lbs or so vs the cup wheels 10lbs savings and run scrubs or the toyo r888r but i am taking too long to decide on that setup.

this will at least get me on track without destroying my current set of MPSS on my factory Spectra grey z06 wheels. Then i can upgrade to the sport cup 2 later while i decide on 18's or 19's.

village idiot

Pacembellum

the idea would be to just run a single set of 19's year round after the last track day in the fall swap out the r888r's for pilot 4s and run those until spring.