First track day, Buttonwillow Raceway an amazing experence
#1
First track day, Buttonwillow Raceway an amazing experence
What an amazing experience.
4 weeks ago I found my ***** and signed up for Speed Ventures Buttonwillow track day. Things got off to a bad start from the beginning. Trying to be perpared I rented a U-haul trailer 2 days before the event so I could get a feel of the car on the trailer. The U-haul trailer had 1/2" clearence on either side. It took 45 miniutes to get the car on the damn thing. Since I was going solo not counting on someone there to help I decided to drive the car 250 miles to the track.
With a warm weather rain storm in the forecast I left the MPSS tires and wheels on the car. The Cup 2 tires I took off the car were what I was counting on using. Oh well, another time.
I wound up with a best lap time of 2:06 on my second day. There was lots of traffic and it was point passing only.
The car performed great. I saw a max oil temp of 262 with ambeient 75 degrees F. The MPSS tires started getting slick toward the end of each session. Not bad just something I noticed getting more confident. I wound up finishing first in every Sunday session. After running very low on gas I decided to skip the last session.
Not being a competitive person it was an amazing feeling.
I made the mistake setting the PDR start/finish in the pits so there are no lap times in the video.
Now I the search is on for a trailer. I will take any suggestions for something that can be towed with a 5000lb limit.
Sammy
I can't seem to imbed the youtube videos so here are the links for anyone interested. No commentary, just sloppy driving.
4 weeks ago I found my ***** and signed up for Speed Ventures Buttonwillow track day. Things got off to a bad start from the beginning. Trying to be perpared I rented a U-haul trailer 2 days before the event so I could get a feel of the car on the trailer. The U-haul trailer had 1/2" clearence on either side. It took 45 miniutes to get the car on the damn thing. Since I was going solo not counting on someone there to help I decided to drive the car 250 miles to the track.
With a warm weather rain storm in the forecast I left the MPSS tires and wheels on the car. The Cup 2 tires I took off the car were what I was counting on using. Oh well, another time.
I wound up with a best lap time of 2:06 on my second day. There was lots of traffic and it was point passing only.
The car performed great. I saw a max oil temp of 262 with ambeient 75 degrees F. The MPSS tires started getting slick toward the end of each session. Not bad just something I noticed getting more confident. I wound up finishing first in every Sunday session. After running very low on gas I decided to skip the last session.
Not being a competitive person it was an amazing feeling.
I made the mistake setting the PDR start/finish in the pits so there are no lap times in the video.
Now I the search is on for a trailer. I will take any suggestions for something that can be towed with a 5000lb limit.
Sammy
I can't seem to imbed the youtube videos so here are the links for anyone interested. No commentary, just sloppy driving.
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jloZ06 (04-12-2018)
#3
Le Mans Master
Congrats. I was completely infected by my second track day.
#4
Burning Brakes
Welcome to the addiction. Just remember; "The best way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a big one." - Junior Johnson.
One thing of note. In an HPDE there is no 1st place. Just go out there and have fun, be safe, and learn to go fast.
One thing of note. In an HPDE there is no 1st place. Just go out there and have fun, be safe, and learn to go fast.
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Adam@Amp'dAutosport.com (04-11-2018)
#5
Tech Contributor
Welcome to the club. It's very addicting.
Post up here when you go to track days and/or check the SoCal section. Several of us often run with Extreme Speed, Speed Ventures (like you have), as well as other clubs.
You'll find that a set of track day wheels/tires will be desirable as well as brake pads.
Post up here when you go to track days and/or check the SoCal section. Several of us often run with Extreme Speed, Speed Ventures (like you have), as well as other clubs.
You'll find that a set of track day wheels/tires will be desirable as well as brake pads.
#6
Thanks everyone for the encouragement. The wife is supporting me in this endeavor. I need to carefully pick and choose what to prioritize. A trailer is far off but consumables like brakes and tires are on my short list. Do you think a harness bar with 5 point seatbelts should be considered?
Sam
Sam
#7
Melting Slicks
Awesome, congrats!! Like the others said, it's addicting...but feels rewarding as you progress.
I started my first track day several years ago in my supercharged C5Z with about 700hp. It was a two day event doing one on one with an instructor the whole time. The biggest thing I learned? Having a fast car doesn't make you a fast driver. Decided very quickly it wasn't a great way to learn, so I purchased a BRZ and flogged the crap out of that for a few years. I sold it to purchase a 2nd C5Z to build as a track car.
Good luck, have fun, and take it slow! As already mentioned, there's no first place in HPDE's. Best to learn as much as possible and finish shiny side up.
I started my first track day several years ago in my supercharged C5Z with about 700hp. It was a two day event doing one on one with an instructor the whole time. The biggest thing I learned? Having a fast car doesn't make you a fast driver. Decided very quickly it wasn't a great way to learn, so I purchased a BRZ and flogged the crap out of that for a few years. I sold it to purchase a 2nd C5Z to build as a track car.
Good luck, have fun, and take it slow! As already mentioned, there's no first place in HPDE's. Best to learn as much as possible and finish shiny side up.
#8
Driving to a from track is a real pleasure. Do it for as long as you can. When you are ready for a dedicated trackcar then get the trailer but then you need something to tow with and a place for the trailer.
I can fit my open trailer in my garage with a custom removable tongue and racecar lives on the trailer so it all fits inside 1 space in a 3 car garage.
Once you go enclosed you start taking more stuff and the weight climbs and so the requirement for a bigger tow vehicle. Once you depart from an F150 or Tahoe and the open trailer you gotta go with an enclosed and diesel pick-up truck. Once you go diesel you ain't ever going back.
#9
You did great for your first day! Lines look pretty good. Your leaving a lot on the table by short shifting. Check out my PDR from BW this last Dec. The MPH gives you an idea of how much room you still have to play with.
#10
Burning Brakes
I would have to spend a small fortune to move out to Cali so I could participate (and sell my car for a C5). I am pretty jealous though. I wanted to do the Veloster/Hatch series that Jim Pierce started a couple of years ago but again, Texas to California is quite a distance.
#12
for now, towing might be tricky, especially with your imposed 5,000LB tow limit.
I assume you are in SOCAL ? as you ran with SV, and tracked at Buttonwillow for your first track day. This mean you have to travel through Grapevine, which is top 10 steepest mountain pass in the country. If you tow vehicle has a 5,000LB limit, you are cutting way way too close. In fact, most experienced racers here will tell you no bueno.
Vette is say 3,200LB, trailer is ~$1,200LB for aluminum ($$$) to 1,800LB for cheap steelie, open trailer. Add tool, fuel, spare wheels and tires, you are sure over 5,000LB.
For first year, I recommend driving to tracks. skip tow vehicles for now. It is a big investment in time and money once you go trailers. You also have to deal with 55MPH speed limit when towing in California.
as for safety. I do NOT recommend 5 pt (always go 6 pt) and/or harness bar (always go roll bar). Many will tell you that once you change 1 aspect of safety equipment (say roll bar or harness), you need to go full out. race seat, harness, roll bar, HANS.... all works in unison. It is hard to believe, but stock is pretty safe. changing just 1 or 2 safety components is the worst idea.
as for oil temp. faster you push the car, hotter it will get.
have fun and be safe...ask ton of questions....
when in doubt, go Spec Corvette !!
I assume you are in SOCAL ? as you ran with SV, and tracked at Buttonwillow for your first track day. This mean you have to travel through Grapevine, which is top 10 steepest mountain pass in the country. If you tow vehicle has a 5,000LB limit, you are cutting way way too close. In fact, most experienced racers here will tell you no bueno.
Vette is say 3,200LB, trailer is ~$1,200LB for aluminum ($$$) to 1,800LB for cheap steelie, open trailer. Add tool, fuel, spare wheels and tires, you are sure over 5,000LB.
For first year, I recommend driving to tracks. skip tow vehicles for now. It is a big investment in time and money once you go trailers. You also have to deal with 55MPH speed limit when towing in California.
as for safety. I do NOT recommend 5 pt (always go 6 pt) and/or harness bar (always go roll bar). Many will tell you that once you change 1 aspect of safety equipment (say roll bar or harness), you need to go full out. race seat, harness, roll bar, HANS.... all works in unison. It is hard to believe, but stock is pretty safe. changing just 1 or 2 safety components is the worst idea.
as for oil temp. faster you push the car, hotter it will get.
have fun and be safe...ask ton of questions....
when in doubt, go Spec Corvette !!
#13
SpecCorvette looks amazingly fun.
I would have to spend a small fortune to move out to Cali so I could participate (and sell my car for a C5). I am pretty jealous though. I wanted to do the Veloster/Hatch series that Jim Pierce started a couple of years ago but again, Texas to California is quite a distance.
I would have to spend a small fortune to move out to Cali so I could participate (and sell my car for a C5). I am pretty jealous though. I wanted to do the Veloster/Hatch series that Jim Pierce started a couple of years ago but again, Texas to California is quite a distance.
- Sean
PA Spec Corvette build
Car #072 85% done
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Olitho (04-12-2018)
#14
You did great for your first day! Lines look pretty good. Your leaving a lot on the table by short shifting. Check out my PDR from BW this last Dec. The MPH gives you an idea of how much room you still have to play with.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=176s&v=NxWYgdUGdmo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=176s&v=NxWYgdUGdmo
Thanks for the encouragement.
I thought concentrating on the line more important than running at full RPM. Crawl before you walk so to speak.
Last edited by carcrazysammy; 04-12-2018 at 10:24 PM.
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rb185afm (04-12-2018)
#15
Wrong choice of words. I was hoping not to be in the bottom 50th percentile. It was a shock to find myself with fastest laps all day. Of course I know the car out classed almost everything else there but none the less I was very happy. Wanted to share it with the forum.
#16
That is you? Small world. I was studying your video Saturday night in my hotel after the first day. You are a very talented driver. You are easily 10mph faster than me most of the time. Are you planning any future days at Buttonwillow?
Thanks for the encouragement.
I thought concentrating on the line more important than running at full RPM. Crawl before you walk so to speak.
Thanks for the encouragement.
I thought concentrating on the line more important than running at full RPM. Crawl before you walk so to speak.