Who uses Improved Racing baffles and what is your experience?
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Who uses Improved Racing baffles and what is your experience?
I am curious how many people here are using the Improved Racing oil pan baffles.
How long have you used them?
How often do you track your car and on what kind of tires?
How well do they work and how do you know they are working?
I am interested in their potential use/suitability to improve the life and durability of Spec Corvette LS6 engines.
Thanks,
Oli
How long have you used them?
How often do you track your car and on what kind of tires?
How well do they work and how do you know they are working?
I am interested in their potential use/suitability to improve the life and durability of Spec Corvette LS6 engines.
Thanks,
Oli
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St. Jude Donor '10, '17
I use their oil pan baffle in my C6Z. Car is a NASA TT1 car with full aero, on Hoosier R7s driven 10/10ths. It is also sees quite a bit of HPDE as I instruct with a number of groups in the NE. I'd say I've been at the track 35+ times this year and broken just about every single part on the car this season, which is typical for me in a given year, to give you an idea of how much I push the car. I have no way to determine or measure how well the baffle works, except that I have no oiling issues and maintain adequate pressure with no starvation even at high oil temps and when pushing the car very, very hard at race speeds with high lateral Gs and for extended periods of time. I also run the Improved Racing crank scraper and AVIAID dry sump tank insert. I will say that the Improved Racing pieces are of high quality, built well and fit perfectly. When I examined it, it is easy to see how the louvered baffle plate helps trap oil flung off the crankshaft and send it to the bottom of the pan, which promotes encouraging the oil to go to the pick-up tube. There is also a trap door which only goes one way that keeps the oil at the pickup tube. So just by looking at it, I can see its usefulness and am confident it is doing something (even though I have no way to directly measure or determine this). The fact that I have no oil starvation issues suggests the baffle is positively contributing.
#3
Pro
i have them on my c5 track car but haven't got the car on track yet so i can't say how they perform but after installing them and see how they are designed i think they would be a big help with keeping oil at the pickup.it acts like a surge tank for a fuel cell.with the baffles and an accusump i don't know if a dry sump would be any better.you would have to be in a high g turn for a long time to starve the motor of oil with those two things installed. maybe auto club might? idk
#4
Melting Slicks
I have the baffles and trap doors. I have two alarms
for anything under 25psi. No alarms or low oil pressure at Cota with full aero on sticker Hoosiers
for anything under 25psi. No alarms or low oil pressure at Cota with full aero on sticker Hoosiers
#5
I use their oil pan baffle in my C6Z. Car is a NASA TT1 car with full aero, on Hoosier R7s driven 10/10ths. It is also sees quite a bit of HPDE as I instruct with a number of groups in the NE. I'd say I've been at the track 35+ times this year and broken just about every single part on the car this season, which is typical for me in a given year, to give you an idea of how much I push the car. I have no way to determine or measure how well the baffle works, except that I have no oiling issues and maintain adequate pressure with no starvation even at high oil temps and when pushing the car very, very hard at race speeds with high lateral Gs and for extended periods of time. I also run the Improved Racing crank scraper and AVIAID dry sump tank insert. I will say that the Improved Racing pieces are of high quality, built well and fit perfectly. When I examined it, it is easy to see how the louvered baffle plate helps trap oil flung off the crankshaft and send it to the bottom of the pan, which promotes encouraging the oil to go to the pick-up tube. There is also a trap door which only goes one way that keeps the oil at the pickup tube. So just by looking at it, I can see its usefulness and am confident it is doing something (even though I have no way to directly measure or determine this). The fact that I have no oil starvation issues suggests the baffle is positively contributing.
I would buy again.
#6
Instructor
I think the C6Z06 dry sump is a completely different animal then the wet sump used on the Spec C5 cars.
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NSFW (09-21-2018)
#7
Burning Brakes
Their stuff is very high quality. I have the crank scraper and pan baffle in my 06z.
A good pan baffle is always a good idea for a track car and the Improved Racing products are super well-built
A good pan baffle is always a good idea for a track car and the Improved Racing products are super well-built
#8
Melting Slicks
Mordeth did you happen to look at the Aviaid LS7/9 Oil Pan Trap & Baffle Assembly when you were considering your purchase of the Improved Racing one? I figure you probably did if you're running the tank insert. If so, why did you pick the Improved Racing over the Aviaid?
#9
Racer
I am curious how many people here are using the Improved Racing oil pan baffles.
How long have you used them?
How often do you track your car and on what kind of tires?
How well do they work and how do you know they are working?
I am interested in their potential use/suitability to improve the life and durability of Spec Corvette LS6 engines.
Thanks,
Oli
How long have you used them?
How often do you track your car and on what kind of tires?
How well do they work and how do you know they are working?
I am interested in their potential use/suitability to improve the life and durability of Spec Corvette LS6 engines.
Thanks,
Oli
Last edited by cwikstro; 09-21-2018 at 12:19 PM.
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Mordeth did you happen to look at the Aviaid LS7/9 Oil Pan Trap & Baffle Assembly when you were considering your purchase of the Improved Racing one? I figure you probably did if you're running the tank insert. If so, why did you pick the Improved Racing over the Aviaid?
1) The Improved Racing piece is a bolt on, exact fit solution. There is no drilling of the pan required (like AVIAID) as Improved Racing uses the existing holes. So no drilling or silicone required, no extruding studs and no worries over leaks.
2) Improved Racing was $50 cheaper.
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Sox-Fan (09-21-2018)
#11
Team Owner
Please expand on the engine, oil pan, and generation of car. Is this a LS3 car if so GS dry sump or base? Not doubt the results just curious the details
#12
Instructor
Oli are the Spec C5 cars seeing issues with oil starve?
#13
I'm running the crank scraper, ls3 pan baffle, and trap doors in a bat wing pan. Ls3 stroked . Just got it done middle of this summer. It has seen 5 track days. It needs over 1 quart exyra, probably close to 2 to maintain oil pressure. It has katech oil pressure shim and Accu sump with 45 psi switch and led light, so I know if it is triggered. I did see pressure coming down before adding extra oil. R7 tires. Ls3 pan baffle takes some massaging to fit in the bat wing pan. It has never triggered the accusump except at idle when the oil temp is 280.
#14
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
No. None that I have seen. But some racers are concerned so we are examining options effective and more affordable than dry sumps.
Personally I think we are looking to solve a problem that does not exist for this class, but if it brings peace of mind to some owners and drivers.....
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Erik L (09-22-2018)
#15
Safety Car
I had the trap doors for the batwing pan on my C5. Never had any oil related issues. Super easy install, quality parts, perfect fit and a cheap mod .I have their LS3 crank scraper and pan baffle that will be going into my C6 real soon.
#16
Le Mans Master
I just installed their baffle in my LS6 powered sand rail. It experiences Higher g’s and crazy angles of the engine due to the terrain. I don’t think I’ll be any oiling issues ths coming dune season.
#17
Have you had oiling issues with other gen-3 Chevy V8s in the past?
Last edited by NSFW; 09-23-2018 at 01:44 PM.
#18
Le Mans Master
last year I had a lifter trunion fail in a motor that was only 1 season old. Main bearings showed a little wear.Dont know if either was a result of oil slosh but I'd rather spend a little to ensure oil at the pickup, than packing up after a couple of runs.
Now I should get one for the LS2 in the track car.
Now I should get one for the LS2 in the track car.
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NSFW (09-24-2018)