RT615K+ Square on Stock C5Z06 Rear Wheels ??
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
RT615K+ Square on Stock C5Z06 Rear Wheels ??
Last season I ran 255/40/17 front and 315/30/18 RT615K+ on my 2001 C5ZO6. Many people suggest 315/30/18 square on stock wheels. So I put my 315 rears on the front in the garage to test the fit. At about 1.5 turn of the steering wheel the tire almost hits the fender liner. I have 1/8 inch or less of clearance between tire and plastic fender well. Is this enough clearance? I would like to run the larger front tires next season, but I don't want to rub holes in the fender liner or cause other interference problems. Are the guys running this set-up seeing the same tight fit in the front?
Last edited by BTTBSS; 12-01-2018 at 06:55 PM.
#2
Le Mans Master
Ran that setup this year, As long as you're careful in the paddock with how far you turn the steering you'll be fine. The setup does do a number on my DRM cooling ducts though, but it's worth it.
Last edited by spdislife; 12-01-2018 at 07:21 PM.
#3
i was thinking this could be a cooling ducting issue. Do you have any modifications to the cooling to accommodate the wide front setup? I’m curious to see what folks have done. I’m planning to run 305 square setup
#4
Le Mans Master
#5
Burning Brakes
Hankook 285/35/18 rs4’s will be cheaper and most likely just as fast even possibly faster then the falken’s.
I was only .6 seconds slower on hankook rs4’s vs Toyo r888r’s at njmp thunderbolt. And they last forever. Just my .02 cents.
I was only .6 seconds slower on hankook rs4’s vs Toyo r888r’s at njmp thunderbolt. And they last forever. Just my .02 cents.
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DK83 (12-22-2018)
#6
The fitment should be fine, even though the clearance is really tight. Running the 315/30/18 Rival-S (which is a slightly bigger tire than the Falken) I think it did rub a little bit there, but only on very tight autocross courses, and not enough to really worry.
#7
Safety Car
If for autocross, run 315's and remove the brake duct. I don't think the stock brake duct is doing much for cooling during autocross. Road race would be a different story.
Another option would be to add a small spacer if your stud length allows. I had rubbing issues on my 95 Camaro to where I needed to account for at least 3/4" static gap due to tire deflection in the REAR to the LCA. The front I suspect will experience more tire deflection under cornering.
Another option would be to add a small spacer if your stud length allows. I had rubbing issues on my 95 Camaro to where I needed to account for at least 3/4" static gap due to tire deflection in the REAR to the LCA. The front I suspect will experience more tire deflection under cornering.
#8
Instructor
Thread Starter
Thanks for the suggestions
The Hankooks are a good buy and I am more comfortable with the idea of a smaller tire in front. I wonder if the 315's will put too much strain on the power steering. No overheating with the 255/40/17's.
#9
Melting Slicks
A lot of us are running 315's on the track without a problem. I'm currently running Nitto NT01 and also have no rubbing, but I don't know how the sizes of those compare to the tires you're referring to. Actual tire width can vary by manufacturer. No issues after 2 seasons with the power steering, but you can easily just run a slightly larger cooler, which I plan to do anyway.
Last edited by Quickshift_C5; 12-05-2018 at 09:43 AM.
#10
Le Mans Master
I ran the square 285 Hankook setup for 3 days this year and really liked them. I can't really compare them to something more aggressive or a larger square setup as I haven't run either on my C5Z but I was happy with the combination.
#11
Just curious, why the Falken FK615+'s? There are plenty "faster" tires at that treadwear (200). A 275/285 RE71R or RivalS is faster than a 315 615+ and you won't have to worry about fitment. Us "STU" autocross guys run 275/285 square all day long. No issues...
#12
Instructor
Thread Starter
I wanted a tire that maintained the stock stagger in diameter and could be used on the street and track without changing tires/wheels. I have used them before and they are a decent dual purpose tire, but I'm more comfortable with the car now and looking to get a better tire set-up for next season. Last event of the year the fronts were getting into the ABS under hard braking and I think that was due to the smaller front contact patch. On the off chance it was something else I bought new DBA rotors and re-built the front calipers. FWIW the old rotors were centrix high carbons with XP-10 pads.
Last edited by BTTBSS; 12-05-2018 at 06:38 PM.
#13
Le Mans Master
In Spec Corvette the spec tire is the Falken 615K+.
We run 315/30x18 on all four corners on rims up to 11". Some racers use four 10.5"x18" C5Z06 rear wheels on all four corners which is allowed.
We run 315/30x18 on all four corners on rims up to 11". Some racers use four 10.5"x18" C5Z06 rear wheels on all four corners which is allowed.
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BigMonkey73 (07-02-2019)
#14
Intermediate
This discussion is of interest to myself as well.
Should I expect issues putting 315/30-18 Rivals using C5Z rear wheels with PFADT coil overs and agressive negative camber for autocross? I recently bought an 02 C5Z that is track prepped, but it still is on the stock 17's up front. It does have a set of aftermarket brake ducts attaching to what appear to be the factory plastic ducts.
I am planning on fitting 18x10.5's on the front, but haven't decided on the tire size yet.
Thank you.
Mark
Should I expect issues putting 315/30-18 Rivals using C5Z rear wheels with PFADT coil overs and agressive negative camber for autocross? I recently bought an 02 C5Z that is track prepped, but it still is on the stock 17's up front. It does have a set of aftermarket brake ducts attaching to what appear to be the factory plastic ducts.
I am planning on fitting 18x10.5's on the front, but haven't decided on the tire size yet.
Thank you.
Mark
#15
This discussion is of interest to myself as well.
Should I expect issues putting 315/30-18 Rivals using C5Z rear wheels with PFADT coil overs and agressive negative camber for autocross? I recently bought an 02 C5Z that is track prepped, but it still is on the stock 17's up front. It does have a set of aftermarket brake ducts attaching to what appear to be the factory plastic ducts.
I am planning on fitting 18x10.5's on the front, but haven't decided on the tire size yet.
Thank you.
Mark
Should I expect issues putting 315/30-18 Rivals using C5Z rear wheels with PFADT coil overs and agressive negative camber for autocross? I recently bought an 02 C5Z that is track prepped, but it still is on the stock 17's up front. It does have a set of aftermarket brake ducts attaching to what appear to be the factory plastic ducts.
I am planning on fitting 18x10.5's on the front, but haven't decided on the tire size yet.
Thank you.
Mark
I think you will be fine on track and for autocross... you may want to avoid full lock turning as I heard 315's can rub in those scenarios.
FWIW, id rather rub on the less expensive brake ducts than use a spacer and destroy a more expensive fender. Ride height maybe a consideration too if you push the front tire out too far with a spacer.
#16
If this is any help to anyone....
I went from 275/40/17 Fronts to a 315/30/18(nt01) square setup on my '02 z06. I have zero fender rubbing issues with this set up. I do have DRM ducts in the front and it rubs if i turn the steering wheel more than 1 full turn. However, the drm ducts rubbed even when i had the 17's in front.
I went from 275/40/17 Fronts to a 315/30/18(nt01) square setup on my '02 z06. I have zero fender rubbing issues with this set up. I do have DRM ducts in the front and it rubs if i turn the steering wheel more than 1 full turn. However, the drm ducts rubbed even when i had the 17's in front.
#17
Pro
When it comes to tire rub, remember that the tire diameter is also important as the rubbing occurs with the wheel turned. Generally a short tire will rub less than a tall tire of the same diameter. Personally had minimal issues with 315 NT-01s on 18 x 10.5" rims but the tire is only 25.3" diameter.