Rexracer77

I have done some Auto-x events in the past and thinking of doing it semi seriously. Goal would be just to go to Nationals, knowing I don't go to the n-th degree to win. I know my car isn't competitive, but don't want to be dead last either. The problem is it has so much done to it that it doesn't fit into any street class (that I can tell). I had planned on just doing Cam-S, but one guy suggested Prepared, which I think is XP? That seems even harder then running in CAM.
Car is 92 manual with built 383. Making 450hp at the crank. VRP springs, Q1 single adjustable shocks, full interior, "aftermarket" seats, etc etc.

Any other suggestions?

Tomswheels

AND0

+1
Clearly CAM-S

jefnvk

CAM-S, without knowing every last modification. Little rules to worry about there, besides 200TW tires and keeping the interior not race car looking.

TurbineSurgine

Cam if you are on street tires, if you have R-comp you could go to SSM. Your 383 I think bumps you out of BSP.

Rexracer77

Yeah CAM-S has been my plan, but this guy made it sound like its a "show" class, and doesn't run with the normal class's etc. So was just trying to figure out if there is another appropriate place for my car. SSM is on slicks also, and I would have a min weight of 2850ish, so that seems out in my mind.
Just wanted a sanity check.
Thanks

Acid666

Lol, Cam isn't really a show class, it's for people who wanna do what they wanna do to their cars and not read a rulebook. I'm in Cam because I didn't want to have a stock car (AS) as I wanted headers with open cats, and I didn't want to max it out per the next class up. CAM gives me the freedom to not really care. When I get slicks installed I planned on going to SSM. I'd go SSR with slicks but I don't have a stock street setup car.

Rexracer77

Yeah thats exactly where I am, and why I was planning CAM. I will stick to my original plan and do that.

eric1855

Come to CAM-S its a perfect fit.

And we're all pretty nice.

thetoy

MatthewMiller

I agree with all the others: CAM-S is the place for you. It's where I run my 396 C4. A point of clarification: SSM isn't for track-ony "slicks" in the normal sense of the word. It does allow Hoosier A7s, which look like slicks, but they are actually DOT street-legal tires. But tires in SSM have to be DOT approved. I have run both classes locally. SSM should always be faster at the top-tier events because it includes smaller, lighter cars with tons of mods. At the national level events, you'd be more competitive in CAM-S, and can more realistically street-drive the 200tw tires (Hoosier A7s are street legal, but not really good for street driving).

jefnvk

CAM was just getting going last time I regularly raced, but as I recall its intention was to get the older muscle car and hot rodder guys (CAM stands for Classic American Muscle) out and competing as a way to bolster the organization. Prepping an autox car takes a lot of reading and understanding rules, rules that can render a hot rod or garage built toy or bracket drag racer that doesn't have to follow many drivetrain rules, that wasn't built to said rule book pretty much out of class in anything but a prepped level. For seemingly minor things that discourage involvement. If you got a whole class of cars whose owners are regularly changing cams, gear ratios, bolting bits and pieces from one car onto another from another decade, etc, it gives them a place to play without any "gotcha" rules that screw up their classification.

It is definitely a real class, that said, I completely understand how a few of the SCCA folks would disdain it as a "show class". I think a couple folks there love crafting and strictly adhering to rules (and calling out those who don't) more than they like the actual racing.

bcpower

I think what “that guy” meant by show classes is the CAM classes are supplemental classes for the SCCA. That basically means they don’t compete for a national championship title, they call them national winners. If you win, your name won’t be printed in the back of the SCCA Rules and you’ll get a Speedway Motor’s Jacket instead of the SCCA’s red jacket. Other than that, the classes compete at the exact same time, on the same courses and offer the same contingency as all the other SCCA classes. On top of that CAM has its own separate CAM Challenge series to add more events to your schedule.

I’d definitely go with CAM if I were you.

Rexracer77

Yeah I think this is what he meant, which I am totally fine with.

Nokones

CAM-S is where all the Kool guys hang out.

kdm123

Have you thought about vintage racing your car? Here in So Cal, I usually see a couple of other C4s in my race group. (I have a '92.) You need a cage, proper belts, and a fuel cell. No disrespect to autoX, but vintage racing is so much more fun.