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Old 04-17-2019, 04:47 PM
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Default Alignment using CSM hub stands by froggy

This will be a series as I put this tool together, learn it, and use it to put a track/autox alignment on my 2013 c6z, enjoy.


Please post questions on the channel, I'm tending to be more there than here, lately.

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Looking forward to it!!
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Perfect timing cuz I will be using mine shortly to
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Damn that's a legit setup. Same thing dude dreamt up, became a sponsor, and started selling a year ago on here?
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Damn that's a legit setup. Same thing dude dreamt up, became a sponsor, and started selling a year ago on here?
Yep, that's us! We've made a substantial amount of progress over the last year perfecting our design and integrating new technology including lasers! We're very excited to watch Froggy's videos and his car get to #1!
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Here I put the tool together nice piece of work isn't it?


Next coming up attach to Vette, set up. Check back.

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Default CSM Precision hub stand attach to Corvette by Froggy

Here is how to attach the CSM hub stands to your Vette


It's really easy, be safe.

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Default CSM hub stands setting neg. camber w/ Longacre bubble gauge by Froggy

Here is Camber, sooo easy compared to having wheels ON.


Includes noob mistakes, first time using these tools. Slack please.



Steering wheel does matter for this step, please tie it, brace it, hold it dead center. I am buying a tool that will do this.

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After a frustrating day today at the alignment shop, I'm going to check these out!
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Great videos Froggy! I'm glad you caught the little things here and there like the locking shoulder bolt, didn't hurt anything!

On bouncing the cars, generally cars are bounced since as the tire rests against the ground when setting the car down it also pushes out, the nature of most suspension design. So to help combat this we bounce the car a little and roll it back and forth to help settle that out. With the Precision Hub Stands there is only a minute amount of resistance, much much lesser than the tire presented. It really is vehicle dependent but I bet you'll find the measurement to stay close even after bouncing the car. Is bouncing it a little a bad thing? no! Does it need it? Not necessarily, just depends on the car. The only way to truly know is to test that theory on your vehicle.

Jacking it up and slowly setting it down might make a difference in the same regard but I suspect that it won't matter with the Hub Stands.

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After a frustrating day today at the alignment shop, I'm going to check these out!
Rob,

If you would like any more info or have any questions feel free to shoot us a PM or give us a call!

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Thanks so much for your videos Froggy. Do you have any plans on a full 4 wheel alignment? I hope so! Thanks again.
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These look amazing, and a great option for anyone without a 4-post lift. However, getting a leaf spring car to fully settle is impossible without driving it. So, just be aware that you should at the minimum check your toe after getting the car back on the ground. "Bouncing" won't do it.
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These look amazing, and a great option for anyone without a 4-post lift. However, getting a leaf spring car to fully settle is impossible without driving it. So, just be aware that you should at the minimum check your toe after getting the car back on the ground. "Bouncing" won't do it.
Thanks for the kind words!

Agreed! It really depends on the car but with Corvettes being transverse leaf they run into the leaf spring settling out after being jacked up. The only way to know how large the effect is is to measure it again after driving. Note, everyone aligning leaf spring cars runs into this. This isn't detrimental and won't substantially throw off alignment values, just something to be aware of.

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Thanks so much for your videos Froggy. Do you have any plans on a full 4 wheel alignment? I hope so! Thanks again.
YES! I did check the rear but no time to adjust & I did a video to demo, will post link tomorrow after I edit it.

Busy with a race weekend, beat a c7 Callaway for a class win today.


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After a frustrating day today at the alignment shop, I'm going to check these out!
You will never have to waste a day at an alignment shop again, and 99% of them don't have a clue on a race alignment. They just plug make and model into their Hunter computer & get grumpy when you tell then you need to sit in the seat while they do it to your numbers.

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Originally Posted by davidfarmer View Post
These look amazing, and a great option for anyone without a 4-post lift. However, getting a leaf spring car to fully settle is impossible without driving it. So, just be aware that you should at the minimum check your toe after getting the car back on the ground. "Bouncing" won't do it.
David is right, but a little cheat I do is spray liquid graphite (dries to powder) around the part that slides on the leaf spring. Still yes do recheck toe at least. Thanks David.

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Froggy,
Did you put an equivalent body weight in the drivers seat when making adjustments?
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Did you put an equivalent body weight in the drivers seat when making adjustments?
I will next time, I'll be doing several alignments to get to optimum.



Who has a suggestion that will not damage or dirty the seats? Weightlifting plates concentrate on the edges of seat and cement bags / too dirty?


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Originally Posted by froggy47 View Post
I will next time, I'll be doing several alignments to get to optimum.



Who has a suggestion that will not damage or dirty the seats? Weightlifting plates concentrate on the edges of seat and cement bags / too dirty?

i bought sand bags to fill. Figured I'd put them in trash bags to make sure they dont make a mess. I would use weightlifting plates, but those run about a $1/lb. Plus with the sandbag, i think they'll wear the seat less.I thought maybe I was being too **** wanting to mimic my bodyweight, but I'm about 235-240 so i think that could make a noticeable impact, no?
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