WARNING: Fraud Epidemic!
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WARNING: Fraud Epidemic!
I doubt that anyone on this forum would fall for this scam but you may be asked for advice from less knowledgeable friends and relatives. Craig's list and AutoTraderClassics have been flooded with fraudulent ads the past few days. This scam has been going on for some time on Craig's list sites along the east coast but the last few days has seen a flurry of these fraudulent ads showing up on AutoTrader.
The adds list a car for a fraction of its market value to generate interest. The "seller" often states that they have been deployed to Afghanistan and that they need a quick sale. They are on base away form the car so it is not available for inspection. They then present payment terms that use the "eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program" (how ironic) even though the car is not being sold on eBay. This is how they get you to make a deposit. Here is a link to an eBay fraud alert that describes how the scam works.
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Eba...-And/510078002
Here is an example of a fraudster's add:
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/fi...rsationId=6333
Here is an example of the response emails:
First you will receive something like this:
Hi,
I am selling this car because my platoon has been sent back to Afghanistan. The price is low because I need to sell it before November 4th. Is in excellent condition, 57k miles.
Right now I'm in a military base so I will not be able to deal in person but I've already arranged the shipping and the title transfer anywhere in the US. I will pay the shipping fees.
I prefer closing the transaction trough eBay system because we are both protected. If you don't know how does the eBay Safe Pay work please let me know so I can help you
It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4,900. The car is in Baltimore, MD, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping.
Regards!!!
LT Kimberly Walker
2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment
Baltimore, MD
Then you will get this:
Hello,
The sale will be managed by eBay for our own protection as they act as a neutral third part.
eBay will keep the money until you inspect/drive the vehicle. The title is clear.
This is how the Vehicle Purchase Protection Program works:
1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal.
2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.
3. You will send the payment ($4900) to eBay and they will notify me to ship the vehicle to your location.
4. After you will inspect/drive the vehicle and decide to keep it, eBay will forward me the funds and the deal is done.
Remember you have 5 days to test it. If by any reason the vehicle is not as described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art looking and working vehicle. I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is clarified before any further steps.
If you wish to purchase it please provide me your full name, address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
Thank you
The adds list a car for a fraction of its market value to generate interest. The "seller" often states that they have been deployed to Afghanistan and that they need a quick sale. They are on base away form the car so it is not available for inspection. They then present payment terms that use the "eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program" (how ironic) even though the car is not being sold on eBay. This is how they get you to make a deposit. Here is a link to an eBay fraud alert that describes how the scam works.
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Eba...-And/510078002
Here is an example of a fraudster's add:
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/fi...rsationId=6333
Here is an example of the response emails:
First you will receive something like this:
Hi,
I am selling this car because my platoon has been sent back to Afghanistan. The price is low because I need to sell it before November 4th. Is in excellent condition, 57k miles.
Right now I'm in a military base so I will not be able to deal in person but I've already arranged the shipping and the title transfer anywhere in the US. I will pay the shipping fees.
I prefer closing the transaction trough eBay system because we are both protected. If you don't know how does the eBay Safe Pay work please let me know so I can help you
It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4,900. The car is in Baltimore, MD, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping.
Regards!!!
LT Kimberly Walker
2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment
Baltimore, MD
Then you will get this:
Hello,
The sale will be managed by eBay for our own protection as they act as a neutral third part.
eBay will keep the money until you inspect/drive the vehicle. The title is clear.
This is how the Vehicle Purchase Protection Program works:
1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal.
2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.
3. You will send the payment ($4900) to eBay and they will notify me to ship the vehicle to your location.
4. After you will inspect/drive the vehicle and decide to keep it, eBay will forward me the funds and the deal is done.
Remember you have 5 days to test it. If by any reason the vehicle is not as described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art looking and working vehicle. I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is clarified before any further steps.
If you wish to purchase it please provide me your full name, address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
Thank you
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I had a very similar experience about a car in Mass and I live in Mass so he could not go to far with his story...
I was also confused with ebay and paypal changes since I do not use them that often. My son wanted me to sell one of the gadgets you get when you buy a new apple computer. So I put in on ebay and a guy bought it and I was always use to sending the item after you get paid. Now paypal hold the money until the buyer gets the item and releases the funds. I was concerned thinking I was getting scammed but it ended up okay...not very fond of this method and don't think I will be selling anything else on ebay...
I was also confused with ebay and paypal changes since I do not use them that often. My son wanted me to sell one of the gadgets you get when you buy a new apple computer. So I put in on ebay and a guy bought it and I was always use to sending the item after you get paid. Now paypal hold the money until the buyer gets the item and releases the funds. I was concerned thinking I was getting scammed but it ended up okay...not very fond of this method and don't think I will be selling anything else on ebay...
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Run! FOREST run. if it sounds to good it is too good. People will do about anything in this day and time.
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Safety Car
Sad to say I've had friends get screwed on the same thing even when I told them it's a con /OH well live and learn
Then they get mad at me for warning them
Then they get mad at me for warning them
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Le Mans Master
I found a 2004 Goldwing advertised in Tampa a couple of weeks ago for $4500. I thought it might be a typo, since $14500 would be reasonable.
Nope, the bike was in Montana, and they were deploying to Afghanistan.
I wrote back to get an address because I was willing to pick it up there and ride it home (Heck, it is a Goldwing, you actually ride them across country.) and to offer good luck, but was puzzled when they wee advertising in Tampa since I saw they were already in Germany per their IP address.
Nope, the bike was in Montana, and they were deploying to Afghanistan.
I wrote back to get an address because I was willing to pick it up there and ride it home (Heck, it is a Goldwing, you actually ride them across country.) and to offer good luck, but was puzzled when they wee advertising in Tampa since I saw they were already in Germany per their IP address.
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Instructor
wow... i just bought and recieved a 67 big block vett. 33 options, ncrs judged 1,055 points. yes 1,055 points. 0 mile fresh restoration. in color of my choice! for $3,999.00. and for only 4- easy payments of $19.99 i will send you some pictures!
.....hehehehe .....JUST KIDDING!.....
.....hehehehe .....JUST KIDDING!.....
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Drifting
Ebay scam
I doubt that anyone on this forum would fall for this scam but you may be asked for advice from less knowledgeable friends and relatives. Craig's list and AutoTraderClassics have been flooded with fraudulent ads the past few days. This scam has been going on for some time on Craig's list sites along the east coast but the last few days has seen a flurry of these fraudulent ads showing up on AutoTrader.
The adds list a car for a fraction of its market value to generate interest. The "seller" often states that they have been deployed to Afghanistan and that they need a quick sale. They are on base away form the car so it is not available for inspection. They then present payment terms that use the "eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program" (how ironic) even though the car is not being sold on eBay. This is how they get you to make a deposit. Here is a link to an eBay fraud alert that describes how the scam works.
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Eba...-And/510078002
Here is an example of a fraudster's add:
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/fi...rsationId=6333
Here is an example of the response emails:
First you will receive something like this:
Hi,
I am selling this car because my platoon has been sent back to Afghanistan. The price is low because I need to sell it before November 4th. Is in excellent condition, 57k miles.
Right now I'm in a military base so I will not be able to deal in person but I've already arranged the shipping and the title transfer anywhere in the US. I will pay the shipping fees.
I prefer closing the transaction trough eBay system because we are both protected. If you don't know how does the eBay Safe Pay work please let me know so I can help you
It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4,900. The car is in Baltimore, MD, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping.
Regards!!!
LT Kimberly Walker
2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment
Baltimore, MD
Then you will get this:
Hello,
The sale will be managed by eBay for our own protection as they act as a neutral third part.
eBay will keep the money until you inspect/drive the vehicle. The title is clear.
This is how the Vehicle Purchase Protection Program works:
1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal.
2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.
3. You will send the payment ($4900) to eBay and they will notify me to ship the vehicle to your location.
4. After you will inspect/drive the vehicle and decide to keep it, eBay will forward me the funds and the deal is done.
Remember you have 5 days to test it. If by any reason the vehicle is not as described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art looking and working vehicle. I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is clarified before any further steps.
If you wish to purchase it please provide me your full name, address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
Thank you
The adds list a car for a fraction of its market value to generate interest. The "seller" often states that they have been deployed to Afghanistan and that they need a quick sale. They are on base away form the car so it is not available for inspection. They then present payment terms that use the "eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program" (how ironic) even though the car is not being sold on eBay. This is how they get you to make a deposit. Here is a link to an eBay fraud alert that describes how the scam works.
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Eba...-And/510078002
Here is an example of a fraudster's add:
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/fi...rsationId=6333
Here is an example of the response emails:
First you will receive something like this:
Hi,
I am selling this car because my platoon has been sent back to Afghanistan. The price is low because I need to sell it before November 4th. Is in excellent condition, 57k miles.
Right now I'm in a military base so I will not be able to deal in person but I've already arranged the shipping and the title transfer anywhere in the US. I will pay the shipping fees.
I prefer closing the transaction trough eBay system because we are both protected. If you don't know how does the eBay Safe Pay work please let me know so I can help you
It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4,900. The car is in Baltimore, MD, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping.
Regards!!!
LT Kimberly Walker
2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment
Baltimore, MD
Then you will get this:
Hello,
The sale will be managed by eBay for our own protection as they act as a neutral third part.
eBay will keep the money until you inspect/drive the vehicle. The title is clear.
This is how the Vehicle Purchase Protection Program works:
1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal.
2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.
3. You will send the payment ($4900) to eBay and they will notify me to ship the vehicle to your location.
4. After you will inspect/drive the vehicle and decide to keep it, eBay will forward me the funds and the deal is done.
Remember you have 5 days to test it. If by any reason the vehicle is not as described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art looking and working vehicle. I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is clarified before any further steps.
If you wish to purchase it please provide me your full name, address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
Thank you
SEEMED TO BE REAL.I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE TRANSACTION
INVOICE YET PROBABLY GET IT MONDAY.
ANYWAY I CHECKED MY EBAY INBOX AND NO RECORD OF THE M.V.P.P.OVERVIEW SEN TO ME.
THEN I CKED.WHERE THE MESSAGE ORGINATED---AW-CONFIRM@VPPMOTORS-TRANSACTION.COM ---THEY CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS A SCAM. THANKS AGAIN 66RACER
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