sidepipe seeker

Hello Fellow Enthusiasts; I'm getting serious about a 1963 Split Window Coupe purchase.

Came across this ad...

http://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/5471047697.html

Believe that is the wrong air cleaner for a 63...any other incorrect parts/features?!...THANKS!!!...Mark

Midyrman

Much bigger issues to consider.

- Color is wrong. $10-15k to correct.

- Engine likely not original. Significant price consession.

That's just the beginning.

Personally, even though it's pretty.... 80k asking price is 80k....70k maybe. Find another split window with original engine and correct color. Cosmetics cost money to correct. Original engine is a better choice for any hopeful value appreciation.

Be patient. Your car is out there.

provette67

I agree with previous poster. Color change hurts value. Can't be sure motor maybe incorrect. Besides the air cleaner,radio,shifter,master cylinder,distributor,carb to pump fuel line and radiator to start with are incorrect. I would expect a better car for that price.

sidepipe seeker

Have spoken with the seller to confirm the engine is a replacement block...Mark

corvettewill

Check out Mecum Houston auction, lot#S123, Blue/blue 63swc, 327/300, topflight.

vettebuyer6369

What is a "non op status" California Title?

corvettewill

Non op in California means that the vehicle is not being driven or being stored.

sidepipe seeker

I'm a California resident ( Please don't hold it against me)...here is the official explanation of "PNO" Planned Non-Operation...Mark

Registration Versus Planned Non-Operation (PNO)

The Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) mails a vehicle registration renewal notice annually to the registered owner of each vehicle registered in California (every two years for off-highway vehicles [OHVs]). At that time the registered owner must decide whether to renew the registration or file for PNO status.

Registration

California law requires vehicles to be currently registered if they are driven, towed, stored, or parked on public roads or highways at any time during the registration period.
If the registered owner decides to register the vehicle, full registration renewal fees are due. If the registered owner has moved and did not notify the department, he/she may not receive a vehicle registration renewal notice. It is the registered owner's responsibility to pay the registration renewal fees on time.

PNO

PNO means that the vehicle will not be driven, towed, stored, or parked on public roads or highways for the entire registration year.

If the registered owner decides to file a PNO on the vehicle, he/she must do so on or before the vehicle's registration expiration date. It is still possible to file a PNO up to 90 days after the vehicle registration expiration date, however penalties are due. For OHVs the PNO must be filed prior to the registration expiration date or the PNO option is forfeited and registration fees with penalties are due.

The renewal notice has a designated box to indicate the registered owner's intention to place the vehicle on nonoperational status.
If a renewal notice is not available, complete a Certificate of Non-Operation/Planned Non- Operation Certification (REG 102) and mail it with your check to the address on the form. A PNO may also be filed online at www.dmv.ca.gov.

Once the PNO status is placed on a vehicle record, it will remain on the record until the registered owner wishes to register the vehicle. The registration expiration date remains the same and the registered owner will receive an annual Non-Operated Vehicle Notice. No response is required unless the registered owner wishes to register the vehicle.

RestoMike

For $80k I would expect much, much more
Wrong air cleaner
Wrong intake
Wrong carb
Wrong shifter
Wrong color (costly issue)
Wrong radio
Wrong distributor
Aftermarket fan clutch
.....and this is what can be seen. One would be a knucklehead to pay anything more than $50k for this car....

JRRHINO

Yep keep looking!

StingU2

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Dad's 59

It would cost you 300.00 to restamp the block like 50% of corvettes are and then you have a numbers match and then have it top flighted with NCRS and then order the paper work with the guy in Canada who is making paper work for corvettes. Then you can claim the originality of the corvette like 90% of corvettes do. Bottom line is engine originality is a mute point in value. Thank you big dealers!

sidepipe seeker

THANKS Dad's 59!!!....As your poignant statement in regards for the "illusion" read "LIE" in producing a "numbers matching engine" is as you expressed is merely a relatively inexpensive procedure, yet to the untrained, even trained eye a "Recipe for disaster"!!!

Experienced these exact same things when I was pursuing with great interest the purchase of a Slantnose Porsche...SAME CIRCUS with stale popcorn & imitation butter ...Mark

vettebuyer6369

While restamps are rampant, as are fake docs, I would not go as far to say that originality is a moot point in value.

Its just that the demands are higher... if you plan to pay for originality, get a qualified inspector or two and buy a car with some pedigree. Get someone who can render a qualified look at the engine pad and the paper trail. If you get a real car, it's definitely still got enhanced value.

In this case, you were considering paying a lot for a car thats got some issue, but is not trying to fool anyone; it's just priced too high. While NOMs dont bother me a bit as long as the price reflects it, a color change, as stated previously, can run you in the $15k range to get right when it's done being reassembled. Big hit.

rayvaflav

The location of the fender cross flags trouble me, in the first photo they appear to be mounted too far forward. Not that big a deal, until you try and properly relocate them.

Ray

oldgold49er

I bought my 67 with a documented history. Hard to fake. This history goes back over 40 years, and is a huge folder containing everything from oil changes to photos(old pictures) of restoration work, and receipts. This kind of documentation also indicates owners who know the value in keeping this paperwork, and take care of their cars. JMO
Good luck in the hunt. It is fun.

Blk63Vette

Hello

I have been seeing a lot of project cars going for 40 to 50k recently...Im wondering of the market is drying up for good splits to make into resto mods?

Maybe 80k isn't too unreasonable?

Hawaii5-0

Reasonable 63's are out there! Just bought this fuelie for 40,000.

sidepipe seeker

Hello 5-0;...WOW!!!...PM sent...Mark

vettebuyer6369

If there are more fuelies like that "out there" for $40k, we would all like to be informed of their locations, please.

I'll take a half-dozen.