FS: Would You Buy a Non-Numbers-Matching 1967 L89 Corvette?
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Would You Buy a Non-Numbers-Matching 1967 L89 Corvette?
One of the most desirable C2 models ever, the L89 Corvette, could be yours if you’re OK with fudging the numbers.
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#2
I'm OK with it provided that the seller makes the lack of matching numbers known. Which they did.
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I would probably find a non-numbers matching '66 or '67 and build my own version.
You could do a 427... Paint... Vintage Air...and a 6 speed for a lot less than $115K including the price of the car.
You could do a 427... Paint... Vintage Air...and a 6 speed for a lot less than $115K including the price of the car.
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One of the most desirable C2 models ever, the L89 Corvette, could be yours if you’re OK with fudging the numbers.
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It'd depend on a lot of factors for me. Starts w. a plus in seller's column that he disclosed (and made obvious by Tremec trans) non-numbers match. Then it would be up to how much IS original and numbers matching and who did the full resto. Those two items would determine for me the value up to the price being asked.
#6
Melting Slicks
As I high school kid in the 60's and 70's whose entire world consisted of girls and cars, cars like that 67 were the ultimate dream car.
Try as I might, I can never recall looking under the hood of any of these cars and formulating the following question:
"Yeah, but is it matching numbers?"
Paint and trim codes were meaningless, as no one cared, except for the body and fender shop.
Yet these cars, and all like them, were revered for what they were, how they looked, how fast and mean they were, not for some string of numbers and broach marks.
Even today, believe it or not, there are many passionate Corvette lovers who give not a single whit about a number and it's matching or not.
I say this as a longtime NCRS member, who has also fallen under the magic spell of numbers.
However, if you remove the facet of "investment value" from the collector car hobby, matching numbers would likely return to their earlier irrelevance.
Now, of course it is difficult to think of our world without that facet.
Matching numbers could have been added to John Lennon's "Imagine"
and caused equally thought provoking moments.
I often find myself smiling when someone looks at a beautiful car, and when the topic of numbers comes up, simply looks at you and says in full honesty and disdain, that he has no care in the world about such things, he or she just likes the car.
You know; Kind of like we all did back when these cars first roamed the streets.
The only time I ever looked at the numbers on my engine block of my ZR-1 that I have owned for 25 years, were during Flight Judging events.
While numbers certainly have a huge impact on value, they make my car neither run or look any better.
It is the car, and the way that it makes me feel when I drive it, not the numbers that put the smile on my face.
Enjoy them!
Marty
Perhaps I succumbed too much myself by replacing my longtime plate
1FUNZR1 with NCRSZR1, maybe this year I will think about switching it back!
Try as I might, I can never recall looking under the hood of any of these cars and formulating the following question:
"Yeah, but is it matching numbers?"
Paint and trim codes were meaningless, as no one cared, except for the body and fender shop.
Yet these cars, and all like them, were revered for what they were, how they looked, how fast and mean they were, not for some string of numbers and broach marks.
Even today, believe it or not, there are many passionate Corvette lovers who give not a single whit about a number and it's matching or not.
I say this as a longtime NCRS member, who has also fallen under the magic spell of numbers.
However, if you remove the facet of "investment value" from the collector car hobby, matching numbers would likely return to their earlier irrelevance.
Now, of course it is difficult to think of our world without that facet.
Matching numbers could have been added to John Lennon's "Imagine"
and caused equally thought provoking moments.
I often find myself smiling when someone looks at a beautiful car, and when the topic of numbers comes up, simply looks at you and says in full honesty and disdain, that he has no care in the world about such things, he or she just likes the car.
You know; Kind of like we all did back when these cars first roamed the streets.
The only time I ever looked at the numbers on my engine block of my ZR-1 that I have owned for 25 years, were during Flight Judging events.
While numbers certainly have a huge impact on value, they make my car neither run or look any better.
It is the car, and the way that it makes me feel when I drive it, not the numbers that put the smile on my face.
Enjoy them!
Marty
Perhaps I succumbed too much myself by replacing my longtime plate
1FUNZR1 with NCRSZR1, maybe this year I will think about switching it back!
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#7
Melting Slicks
Oh,
and that particular 67 NNM car?
Why it is EXACTLY the car of my teenage dreams!!!
Car, colors, engine, etc.
So, YES!
I would not hesitate for a moment buying that car!
It is simply exceptional!
Marty
and that particular 67 NNM car?
Why it is EXACTLY the car of my teenage dreams!!!
Car, colors, engine, etc.
So, YES!
I would not hesitate for a moment buying that car!
It is simply exceptional!
Marty
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Did this car sell or is it still available? Is / was it listed on the Corvette Forum?
Thanks,
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Thanks,
Rex
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As I high school kid in the 60's and 70's whose entire world consisted of girls and cars, cars like that 67 were the ultimate dream car.
Try as I might, I can never recall looking under the hood of any of these cars and formulating the following question:
"Yeah, but is it matching numbers?"
Paint and trim codes were meaningless, as no one cared, except for the body and fender shop.
Yet these cars, and all like them, were revered for what they were, how they looked, how fast and mean they were, not for some string of numbers and broach marks.
Even today, believe it or not, there are many passionate Corvette lovers who give not a single whit about a number and it's matching or not.
I say this as a longtime NCRS member, who has also fallen under the magic spell of numbers.
However, if you remove the facet of "investment value" from the collector car hobby, matching numbers would likely return to their earlier irrelevance.
Now, of course it is difficult to think of our world without that facet.
Matching numbers could have been added to John Lennon's "Imagine"
and caused equally thought provoking moments.
I often find myself smiling when someone looks at a beautiful car, and when the topic of numbers comes up, simply looks at you and says in full honesty and disdain, that he has no care in the world about such things, he or she just likes the car.
You know; Kind of like we all did back when these cars first roamed the streets.
The only time I ever looked at the numbers on my engine block of my ZR-1 that I have owned for 25 years, were during Flight Judging events.
While numbers certainly have a huge impact on value, they make my car neither run or look any better.
It is the car, and the way that it makes me feel when I drive it, not the numbers that put the smile on my face.
Enjoy them!
Marty
Perhaps I succumbed too much myself by replacing my longtime plate
1FUNZR1 with NCRSZR1, maybe this year I will think about switching it back!
Try as I might, I can never recall looking under the hood of any of these cars and formulating the following question:
"Yeah, but is it matching numbers?"
Paint and trim codes were meaningless, as no one cared, except for the body and fender shop.
Yet these cars, and all like them, were revered for what they were, how they looked, how fast and mean they were, not for some string of numbers and broach marks.
Even today, believe it or not, there are many passionate Corvette lovers who give not a single whit about a number and it's matching or not.
I say this as a longtime NCRS member, who has also fallen under the magic spell of numbers.
However, if you remove the facet of "investment value" from the collector car hobby, matching numbers would likely return to their earlier irrelevance.
Now, of course it is difficult to think of our world without that facet.
Matching numbers could have been added to John Lennon's "Imagine"
and caused equally thought provoking moments.
I often find myself smiling when someone looks at a beautiful car, and when the topic of numbers comes up, simply looks at you and says in full honesty and disdain, that he has no care in the world about such things, he or she just likes the car.
You know; Kind of like we all did back when these cars first roamed the streets.
The only time I ever looked at the numbers on my engine block of my ZR-1 that I have owned for 25 years, were during Flight Judging events.
While numbers certainly have a huge impact on value, they make my car neither run or look any better.
It is the car, and the way that it makes me feel when I drive it, not the numbers that put the smile on my face.
Enjoy them!
Marty
Perhaps I succumbed too much myself by replacing my longtime plate
1FUNZR1 with NCRSZR1, maybe this year I will think about switching it back!
#10
Drifting
As I high school kid in the 60's and 70's whose entire world consisted of girls and cars, cars like that 67 were the ultimate dream car.
Try as I might, I can never recall looking under the hood of any of these cars and formulating the following question:
"Yeah, but is it matching numbers?"
Paint and trim codes were meaningless, as no one cared, except for the body and fender shop.
Yet these cars, and all like them, were revered for what they were, how they looked, how fast and mean they were, not for some string of numbers and broach marks.
Even today, believe it or not, there are many passionate Corvette lovers who give not a single whit about a number and it's matching or not.
I say this as a longtime NCRS member, who has also fallen under the magic spell of numbers.
However, if you remove the facet of "investment value" from the collector car hobby, matching numbers would likely return to their earlier irrelevance.
Now, of course it is difficult to think of our world without that facet.
Matching numbers could have been added to John Lennon's "Imagine"
and caused equally thought provoking moments.
I often find myself smiling when someone looks at a beautiful car, and when the topic of numbers comes up, simply looks at you and says in full honesty and disdain, that he has no care in the world about such things, he or she just likes the car.
You know; Kind of like we all did back when these cars first roamed the streets.
The only time I ever looked at the numbers on my engine block of my ZR-1 that I have owned for 25 years, were during Flight Judging events.
While numbers certainly have a huge impact on value, they make my car neither run or look any better.
It is the car, and the way that it makes me feel when I drive it, not the numbers that put the smile on my face.
Enjoy them!
Marty
Perhaps I succumbed too much myself by replacing my longtime plate
1FUNZR1 with NCRSZR1, maybe this year I will think about switching it back!
Try as I might, I can never recall looking under the hood of any of these cars and formulating the following question:
"Yeah, but is it matching numbers?"
Paint and trim codes were meaningless, as no one cared, except for the body and fender shop.
Yet these cars, and all like them, were revered for what they were, how they looked, how fast and mean they were, not for some string of numbers and broach marks.
Even today, believe it or not, there are many passionate Corvette lovers who give not a single whit about a number and it's matching or not.
I say this as a longtime NCRS member, who has also fallen under the magic spell of numbers.
However, if you remove the facet of "investment value" from the collector car hobby, matching numbers would likely return to their earlier irrelevance.
Now, of course it is difficult to think of our world without that facet.
Matching numbers could have been added to John Lennon's "Imagine"
and caused equally thought provoking moments.
I often find myself smiling when someone looks at a beautiful car, and when the topic of numbers comes up, simply looks at you and says in full honesty and disdain, that he has no care in the world about such things, he or she just likes the car.
You know; Kind of like we all did back when these cars first roamed the streets.
The only time I ever looked at the numbers on my engine block of my ZR-1 that I have owned for 25 years, were during Flight Judging events.
While numbers certainly have a huge impact on value, they make my car neither run or look any better.
It is the car, and the way that it makes me feel when I drive it, not the numbers that put the smile on my face.
Enjoy them!
Marty
Perhaps I succumbed too much myself by replacing my longtime plate
1FUNZR1 with NCRSZR1, maybe this year I will think about switching it back!
My opinion is that most of the people who care about the matching numbers are either the "purist" or the collectors. And most of those buy these cars and throw them in the garage and only drive them a couple of times a year or trailer them to shows. I love looking at cars and going to shows. But, I also like driving them.
I think it was said in a previous comment that the cost to build a decent motor, paint, etc would be cheaper than this car (and would probably be more reliable). If one intends to drive it, drop an LS7 in it, rewire, etc. and call it a day.
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If you like the car that's fine. More info is needed to determine value. Like; Original big block car, original colors, trim tag, 67 block. remember the real black 435 AO Smith coupe on ebay month or so ago. Brought 74.5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Chevrol...hYdY~f&vxp=mtr
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Nothing in the ad mentions that the car was originally from the factory as a L89. Just that the motor now has aluminum heads. Could very well started life as a 300hp automatic. For those who say that matching numbers do not matter.Would you be as quick to pay $50K more than the real value of the car. For that matter would you pay much more for anything than it was worth? You can get a deal on counterfeit $100 bills. Now only $10 ea. But the seller gets credit for making the fact the bills are counterfeit known.
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Nothing in the ad mentions that the car was originally from the factory as a L89. Just that the motor now has aluminum heads. Could very well started life as a 300hp automatic. For those who say that matching numbers do not matter.Would you be as quick to pay $50K more than the real value of the car. For that matter would you pay much more for anything than it was worth? You can get a deal on counterfeit $100 bills. Now only $10 ea. But the seller gets credit for making the fact the bills are counterfeit known.
#16
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I've got a nom driver quality 1965 coupe, and a 1967 Bloomington Gold, Duntov award car. Ran both through a classic car auction, bid spread was 20K. Long story short been thinking about using the 67 for a restomod. They seem to be appreciated than a trophy car. Long story short pedigree to mutt not much value difference. Just my experiment. Ron B.
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I am not as concerned with matching numbers. Most of the C2 Corvette's have gone through several paint and interior jobs as well as engine changes and mechanical upgrades or rebuilds. I would be more concerned about a car that didn't have problems. There are so many Corvettes out there that have had extensive work and still look and run great.
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I contacted the seller and he said the car has a 1966 942 block and a set of the newer aluminum heads with the bow tie symbol on them. A very nice looking car, but maybe a little pricey ?
#19
If there's no concern about have a matching number, seems like it'd just be much more simple to take this car and add aluminum heads at nearly half the cost:
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6037282582.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6037282582.html
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"Jay Leno wishes he owned this Corvette"----if Jay Leno wanted it, he would have bought it......and your house.
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