1960 Steering box leaking....
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1960 Steering box leaking....
My steering box in my 1960 is starting to leak... I use 80 weight oil to fill the steering box... About 5 or 6 years ago my steering box was leaking however I was able to fix it by adding a stop oil treatment for gear boxes... I can no longer find this treatment at my local Canadian Tire store... And I forget who made this remedy...
I am thinking of replacing the oil with grease...at least that should have a harder time seeping out...
Any suggestions on oil vs grease...??? What type of grease should I use??? General chasis lube...???
Also how diificult is it to replace the seals / gaskets on these steering boxes....??? I'm assuming the steering box have to be removed....
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I am thinking of replacing the oil with grease...at least that should have a harder time seeping out...
Any suggestions on oil vs grease...??? What type of grease should I use??? General chasis lube...???
Also how diificult is it to replace the seals / gaskets on these steering boxes....??? I'm assuming the steering box have to be removed....
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Kenmo
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Not only should you switch to chassis grease, but, back in the late 50s, GM sent out a service letter recommending the change.
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Recommend a chassis grease that is rated "EP" and states it has "moly" (for extreme pressure and the plating action of the moly for less friction and wear).
If you have headers, you may want to go to a synthetic or semi-synthetic grease for the higher temp rating due to the closeness of the headers to the steering box.
Example: The Valvoline DuraBlend is a semi-synthetic chassis grease rated at -25F to +400F, while the full synthetic Valvoline SynPower is rated for -60F to +425F. The DuraBlend I use is moly fortified and is a "Complex EP" grease, available at most auto parts dealers (part#279 for the standard grease gun tube).
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If you have headers, you may want to go to a synthetic or semi-synthetic grease for the higher temp rating due to the closeness of the headers to the steering box.
Example: The Valvoline DuraBlend is a semi-synthetic chassis grease rated at -25F to +400F, while the full synthetic Valvoline SynPower is rated for -60F to +425F. The DuraBlend I use is moly fortified and is a "Complex EP" grease, available at most auto parts dealers (part#279 for the standard grease gun tube).
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Is it ok to replace the oil that has leaked out with grease...??? I guess what I'm asking "Is it ok to mix the grease and oil" or should I remove all the oil before replacing it with the proper grease....???
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Originally Posted by kenmo
Is it ok to replace the oil that has leaked out with grease...??? I guess what I'm asking "Is it ok to mix the grease and oil" or should I remove all the oil before replacing it with the proper grease....???
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Kenmo
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But, if you remove as much of the oil as you can, the remaining oil should not "hurt" anything. The oil will simply continue to leak out where it can.
What you don't want to do is mix greases of different base soaps (like you don't want to put in a Lithium based grease, and then add a calcium based version, etc.). Always stay with the same grease soap base (unless you are sure all the old grease has been removed).
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Originally Posted by kenmo
Should I attempt to replace the gasket or seal that is leaking...??? Or not worry....
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Really depends on how much it is leaking, and how much it bothers you. A small seep might really irk some guys off (and tear into it), but others will wipe it up (and go on to something more important in life). Whereas a large leak would be a constant mess, and demand repair (can let dirt in, as well as oil out).
Me, I would find the right time (I am currently in the middle of having a new home built, so now is not the right time for me) to fix it properly, and do it all at once (remove all the old oil, fix and adjust, and replace with grease).
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Replacement of the seal and gasket CAN be done with the steering box in the car, although, it will require partial disassembly of the steering box, mainly removal of the sector shaft, which means removal of the pitman arm from the sector shaft. It that pitman arm has never been removed, it may be a pretty good chore getting it off with the steering box/column in the car!!!
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If you don't like the idea of heavy chassis grease in the box, use the constant velocity joint grease that comes in a 3 oz. packet from your parts store. It is very thin, but won't leak out like oil.