67 L88 on ebay
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Originally Posted by BarryK
two things come to my mind as I look at the car.
1. who in their right mind would sell an L-88 on eBay if it was REAL??!!
2. Is it me or does that stamp pad look to "perfect" - too straight and even and all numbers and letters perfectly in line with each other. Real factory stampings weren't done that carefully I thought. I don't claim to know much about stamp pads though so it will be interesting to see what others have to say about it
1. who in their right mind would sell an L-88 on eBay if it was REAL??!!
2. Is it me or does that stamp pad look to "perfect" - too straight and even and all numbers and letters perfectly in line with each other. Real factory stampings weren't done that carefully I thought. I don't claim to know much about stamp pads though so it will be interesting to see what others have to say about it
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Originally Posted by Sean Dunshee
And if you did follow it back...would they admit they were the ones?
I am not against the people that do these "clones" and if it is well done thats great....BUT....don't try and pass it off as a "real" one. I am still interested in what happened with the sale of the "L88 Tanker" 67 that sold on eBay a few months ago for $850,000...that was an absolutly gorgeous car and well done but with all the info I read here on the forum about that car is that it was a TOTAL fake. I really wonder if these are REAL bids people are putting on these cars or if they are SHILL bidding, although the $850,000 met reserve so if it was SHILL bidding the seller would have had to pay a sellers fee. You would think that these people bidding on these supposed REAL L88 cars would do a little homework. I guess thats what is great about the Corvette community...it seems we are all pretty tight knit and someone seems to always know the true story behind some of the clones that are trying to be passed off as the real deal.
I am not against the people that do these "clones" and if it is well done thats great....BUT....don't try and pass it off as a "real" one. I am still interested in what happened with the sale of the "L88 Tanker" 67 that sold on eBay a few months ago for $850,000...that was an absolutly gorgeous car and well done but with all the info I read here on the forum about that car is that it was a TOTAL fake. I really wonder if these are REAL bids people are putting on these cars or if they are SHILL bidding, although the $850,000 met reserve so if it was SHILL bidding the seller would have had to pay a sellers fee. You would think that these people bidding on these supposed REAL L88 cars would do a little homework. I guess thats what is great about the Corvette community...it seems we are all pretty tight knit and someone seems to always know the true story behind some of the clones that are trying to be passed off as the real deal.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
The guy is in defensive mode because he knows full well the car is a fake, and has been trying to unload it as an L-88 for years with no success. G.L. Anderson (owner of the dealership when the Shriner cars were ordered and delivered) posts regularly on the NCRS Board, and has ALL the Shriner Corvette records, including this one.
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AND NOW THE TRUTH
Posted By: GL Anderson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 22 December 2005, at 5:56 p.m.
In Response To: L88 ????? (Page Campbell #2299)
Well he only got maybe 3 things right in his ebay ad. He did talk to me, it was sold to a William Neeck and it is a 1967 Corvette. Not only was it a 350hp small block car when produced and we picked it up at the factory, but it was also my Fathers Shrine Corvette Patrol parade car. Since my dad was the dealer and also in the patrol he never had to license his Shrine car but rather drove it on a dealer plate. The first true owner would have been Mr Neeck. There are several photos out there showing the 67 Shrine cars and members standing by their car. I can point out that exact car in the pics. It had a blue interior from the factory. Everything about it being an L88 is a fake. The buyers invoice is fake, I don't know about the repair order so maybe he got 4 things right. He came to me in the early 90s and wanted me to back his story about the supposed L88. I told him no way. By the way I was 21 in 1967 and between my twin brother and I put several thousand miles on that exact car. As to paperwork no I don't have the factory invoice but I do have other documentation on that car. I don't hang out on other Corvette boards but if anybody wants to know the truth, let them know it is a fake. I will be happy to provide the documentation I have and point out a number of errors he has made in his paperwork, but only to someone I trust won't take that info back to him so he can do a better job next time. Any questions? GL
Posted By: GL Anderson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 22 December 2005, at 5:56 p.m.
In Response To: L88 ????? (Page Campbell #2299)
Well he only got maybe 3 things right in his ebay ad. He did talk to me, it was sold to a William Neeck and it is a 1967 Corvette. Not only was it a 350hp small block car when produced and we picked it up at the factory, but it was also my Fathers Shrine Corvette Patrol parade car. Since my dad was the dealer and also in the patrol he never had to license his Shrine car but rather drove it on a dealer plate. The first true owner would have been Mr Neeck. There are several photos out there showing the 67 Shrine cars and members standing by their car. I can point out that exact car in the pics. It had a blue interior from the factory. Everything about it being an L88 is a fake. The buyers invoice is fake, I don't know about the repair order so maybe he got 4 things right. He came to me in the early 90s and wanted me to back his story about the supposed L88. I told him no way. By the way I was 21 in 1967 and between my twin brother and I put several thousand miles on that exact car. As to paperwork no I don't have the factory invoice but I do have other documentation on that car. I don't hang out on other Corvette boards but if anybody wants to know the truth, let them know it is a fake. I will be happy to provide the documentation I have and point out a number of errors he has made in his paperwork, but only to someone I trust won't take that info back to him so he can do a better job next time. Any questions? GL
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Good job 71vert.....just like I said....someone always knows the real story in the Corvette community. Hopefully we can #1 keep someone from losing their hard earned money on a FAKE and #2 keep the next guy building a FAKE from trying to pawn it off as the REAL DEAL.
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
Here's what REAL numbers look like----
Ahhhhh, the virgin engine pad....
Those look nice, and real!!!
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ztheusa I suppsoe you own a real L88, if so that is cool what number is your car I mean is it the 10 or so L88 made
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Originally Posted by Sean Dunshee
I'm guessing the numbers Z the USA is showing is just an example of what GM numbers should look like. Guessing its not an L88 pic since they are not alum heads.
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Originally Posted by Harps
See, I was wondering the same thing on both points. Especially that engine pad, those numbers look perfect!
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One of the questions begging to be asked here is even if you are a bidder who doesn't read the Corvette Forum, have no idea that you are getting screwed....wouldn't the fact that he has been an eBay member for less than 30 days, is doing a Private auction and he has 0 feedback throw up some kind of a RED FLAG? The car has 4 bids and is bid up to over $120,000 right now, my guess is that since it is a Private auction that none of the bids are real anyways but still.
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If I was to spend over 50K on any old car I would do a lot of research.
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Originally Posted by 427 Mitch
This is a real L88 engine stamp!
Mitch
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Correct me if I am wrong here, but the vin is 2390? Right? So as I understand it based on the Astoria Chas story. The L-88 option wasn't even available yet in this early production of a car. It was a little later on in 67 production.
Does anyone know what the vin of the first L-88 production car to run off the line was?
Happy Holidays!!!!
Does anyone know what the vin of the first L-88 production car to run off the line was?
Happy Holidays!!!!
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Originally Posted by livin
Correct me if I am wrong here, but the vin is 2390? Right? So as I understand it based on the Astoria Chas story. The L-88 option wasn't even available yet in this early production of a car. It was a little later on in 67 production.
Does anyone know what the vin of the first L-88 production car to run off the line was?
Happy Holidays!!!!
Does anyone know what the vin of the first L-88 production car to run off the line was?
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Guys does anybody have a clue. L-88 were made in late jan. 67 Tony delorenzo car the FIRST L-88 VIN 194677S109097 (9,097 car) if you cant tell that pad is a joke now I know whos buying this stuff on ebay NCRS member Do a little reading
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Originally Posted by 427 Mitch
This is a real L88 engine stamp!
Mitch
ahh, right on cue!
Mitch ol buddy, have you gotten myChristmas present wrapped yet?
what's a little L88 between friends?