Differences between 396 Hi-Perf Truck/Pass Engine
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Differences between 396 Hi-Perf Truck/Pass Engine
I've got a 396 engine which cast into the back is Hi-Perf Truck/Pass Engine. Don't have the casting and head numbers handy but in general, what if any differences are there between this and a 65 396/425 Corvette engine? Heads, Cam, 2 or 4 bolt?
I'm going to rebuild the bottom end and beef it up a little and on the top end was thinking of something like the Edelbrock 2095 Top end kit. Drop a decent ignition system in there and maybe a 850 Holley and a 5 speed and it should make for a nice C2 cruiser.
Just tossing additional options as per a previous post on engine choices. Other suggestions?
I'm going to rebuild the bottom end and beef it up a little and on the top end was thinking of something like the Edelbrock 2095 Top end kit. Drop a decent ignition system in there and maybe a 850 Holley and a 5 speed and it should make for a nice C2 cruiser.
Just tossing additional options as per a previous post on engine choices. Other suggestions?
#2
Le Mans Master
No deference between a truck or passenger block. After mid 1970 it would be a 402 (.30 over 396) block.
Watch out with edelbrock, some of those heads need a special piston that only works with their heads.
Watch out with edelbrock, some of those heads need a special piston that only works with their heads.
#3
Race Director
A truck block, meaning large truck like a C70, not pickup truck, has a taller deck height for a longer rod, and requires a different intake manifold.
If the holes above the oil filter boss are tapped and plugged (for a remote oil cooler or filter), you have a 4 bolt main block. Not tapped and plugged means 2 bolt block.
Doug
If the holes above the oil filter boss are tapped and plugged (for a remote oil cooler or filter), you have a 4 bolt main block. Not tapped and plugged means 2 bolt block.
Doug
#5
Race Director
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: Mustang OK
Posts: 13,849
Received 3,768 Likes
on
1,670 Posts
2023 C1 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2015 C1 of the Year Finalist
All of the above is good info.
A few added comments.
The truck/pass/hi-perf blocks are essentially the same, regardless of 2 or 4 bolt caps. ONLY the machining process for drilling/tapping the outer bolt holes for 4bolt caps is different, plus the larger, threaded holes for an oil cooler (but the basic block is the same).
The ONLY tall deck big blocks used in trucks are the 366 and 427 tall deck truck blocks. The 396 and 454 were always standard deck height.
They have become kind of scarce now, but the 366 and 427 BBs (ESPECIALLY 366s) from big trucks (dump trucks, school busses, delivery trucks, etc, etc) were ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 4bolt blocks. There was a time when 366 truck engines were a dime a dozen (very low demand for them). Frequently, you could pick up a 366 block for scrap iron price and remove the 4bolt caps and take the caps and your 2bolt 396-427-454 to your machinist and have him fit/machine your 2bolt block into a 4bolt block (same thing GM did at the factory). I've had this done to a couple of BB in the past-----------toooooooooooo easy! I still have more than a full set of 4bolt caps EXCEPT for the rear cap, don't have one of those.
Tom Parsons
A few added comments.
The truck/pass/hi-perf blocks are essentially the same, regardless of 2 or 4 bolt caps. ONLY the machining process for drilling/tapping the outer bolt holes for 4bolt caps is different, plus the larger, threaded holes for an oil cooler (but the basic block is the same).
The ONLY tall deck big blocks used in trucks are the 366 and 427 tall deck truck blocks. The 396 and 454 were always standard deck height.
They have become kind of scarce now, but the 366 and 427 BBs (ESPECIALLY 366s) from big trucks (dump trucks, school busses, delivery trucks, etc, etc) were ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 4bolt blocks. There was a time when 366 truck engines were a dime a dozen (very low demand for them). Frequently, you could pick up a 366 block for scrap iron price and remove the 4bolt caps and take the caps and your 2bolt 396-427-454 to your machinist and have him fit/machine your 2bolt block into a 4bolt block (same thing GM did at the factory). I've had this done to a couple of BB in the past-----------toooooooooooo easy! I still have more than a full set of 4bolt caps EXCEPT for the rear cap, don't have one of those.
Tom Parsons
#7
Team Owner
Member Since: Feb 2003
Location: Sitting in his Nowhere land Hanover Pa
Posts: 48,998
Received 6,940 Likes
on
4,780 Posts
2015 C2 of Year Finalist
#8
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Thanks alot to all.
So if I pick a decent piston, heads, cam and intake, this puppy should have a nice little kick to it is what it comes down to I would say.
So if I pick a decent piston, heads, cam and intake, this puppy should have a nice little kick to it is what it comes down to I would say.
#10
Le Mans Master
the small block chevy is an incredible hi performance engine. a big block chevy is the ultimate small block..........i'll let the "scrap" comment die by itself....
#11
Safety Car
#12
Drifting
passengers of the car or squashing the frame with their weight they are inhaling their valves and exhaling theur rods thru the pan
#13
Might that be the difference between a Corvette 962 block and one used elsewhere?
#14
Sorry for the mooring comment but I have been around those slobs for 30 years even owned a couple of them. when they are not cooking the
passengers of the car or squashing the frame with their weight they are inhaling their valves and exhaling theur rods thru the pan
passengers of the car or squashing the frame with their weight they are inhaling their valves and exhaling theur rods thru the pan
#16
Le Mans Master
You would think so, but I have a 3855962 block dated in 65 (can't read the first 2 casting digits) that doesn't have the reinforcement gussetts referred to in the NCRS judging guide. I have owned the block for 20 years and know the history for 10 more years prior so I know it is not a block with the casting numbers altered.
Might that be the difference between a Corvette 962 block and one used elsewhere?
Might that be the difference between a Corvette 962 block and one used elsewhere?
#17
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Thanks all for the interesting replies.
Now how about a little techy specifics. If this 396 Hi-Perf Trk/Pass motor is rated at 350hp and a 65 Corvette at 425hp, whaz' up with dat? Compression/heads/cam/intake/carb differences and if so anyone have any details?
Now how about a little techy specifics. If this 396 Hi-Perf Trk/Pass motor is rated at 350hp and a 65 Corvette at 425hp, whaz' up with dat? Compression/heads/cam/intake/carb differences and if so anyone have any details?
#18
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
#19
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
#20
Le Mans Master
The biggest difference is the rectangle port heads.
3902406....396.......67......2 or 4 bolt