n1kon

Oh, I thought they looked different. What molds are you using for the Coupe then?

How did you guys do this weekend?

n1kon

OK, I did some examining and...I definitely see differences.

I have included a photo of GS 002 blue and Wintersteen.

1. The flares are completely different.
2. The Blue # 38 albeit awesome looking, seems to have the front end slightly lowered. On the real 002 it is very straight. Also, the fairing on the roll bar looks more rounded on the real 002.

Mr. Wizzard

I agree that the nose does look a bit lower, but I suspect that's a little "bonus" from Duntov to decrease lift on the nose of the car. Most participants take vintage racing very seriously, and there's a lot of cheating that goes on. I seriously doubt that the techs at those events really know what's what anyway...especially on a car as rare as the GS.
Duntov got away with running the while coupe for years, and it's nose was seriously drooped.

With the exception of the big nose droop on the Duntovs, I think you have to cut the bodies a little slack, because those original cars were so beat-up in races that most of the repairs were hasty, and there weren't any templates to go by........so most of the cars varied considerably in overall body accuracy.
Larry

jim lockwood

I agree completely. And there are more differences than you have noted.

The blue car looks like its body is from Jeff Leech at Mid America and not at all like it's made from the molds Bob Ash created for #002.

Jim

n1kon

True, but I am merely talking about the claim that they used they same molds. Which now really looking at the cars I can say I don't think they did. The real 002 (the light blue one) is the repro body made according to the Racing Icons article. If they used the molds which is being claimed and advertised then they should look exactly the same, which they don't.

The rear flares are similar but if you closely examine the front end then you can see a difference. The Mid America front clip is very straight and not angled down like #38

jim lockwood

I see that. It's nothing a good glass man couldn't accomplish.

What I see are features that are intrinsic to the Mid America body shape that are definitely NOT features of either of the #002 Grand Sport bodies.

Jim

keystonefarm

Regarding the flares on any of existing real 5 GS cars . I would doubt that any of the real Chevrolet installed flares still exist. They were easy sacrificial body parts in racing. When I went to look at George Wintersteens #002 car back in late 1967 for the pricely sum of $5500 I could have bought the car, an extra hood, 2 sets of Americans with Firestones all mounted up and a few other spare parts . Four of which were extra flares !!!. The flares by the way so I was told were made from some U haul trailer fenders !!! They rented a U Haul trailer made some molds off the steel fenders and used them as replacement parts for the GS. They were a perfect match !!!
Regarding the upcoming new Superperformance GS versions , has anyone seen one yet ???I'm not talking about the Duntov versions but the street Superperformance versions.
------------------- Ken McCorry

Mr. Wizzard

I know a couple people who did body work on the real cars and they told me they used fiberglass boat tailer fenders............thus the inspiration for the fender flares I used on my Honda Civic to cover the wide front tires.

n1kon

Haha! That's awesome!

Mr. Wizzard

The Civic's a beast!

redvetracr

the ultimate sleeper....

Mr. Wizzard

It ran an 11.04 at 134mph when Hot Rod Magazine tested it back in 2001. That was through the muffler and on a 7" front tire. It pissed their readers off pretty badly....especially since it registered 27mpg in town and 37 on the freeway!
It's still my favorite car of all time.
Larry

n1kon

I hope True Blue Vette or someone from Duntov can answer my questions regarding their claim that the molds they are using are from #002. Please refer to post #482 for my photo comparison.

n1kon

Here is a photo of Duntov Motor Company Grand Sport continuation #014. They certainly are not using any molds from the originals as they say they are. The nose is drooped down.

Mr. Wizzard

Damn......and Edward had the gall to call my Mongoose car a "frankenstein"!
#14 is one of the most distorted reproductions I've ever seen. Man, is that thing ugly!

TheSaint

But yezzzzz they are looking tuff that way

n1kon

I just can't believe they are calling them continuations with such altered bodies. I do think the suspension they have is a very nice piece.

I wonder if Superformance will be using these molds. If so, you can expect the majority of GS replicas to look like that.

It's sad and I don't think the Grand Sport deserves that image. I really hope they do start using correct molds.

redvetracr

who was it that said GM licensing doesn`t care about quality or accuracy?? oh yea, it was me.

john bulba

http://www.flickr.com/photos/america...7605289203293/


here is a pic of my new 1970 corvette replica factory race car....Looks just like the original doesnt it ?

jim lockwood

John, maybe you should see if GM is still giving away licenses.

Jim