Help with a 58 Corvette
#1
8th Gear
Thread Starter
Member Since: Oct 2009
Location: Indianapolis IN
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Help with a 58 Corvette
I have come across a 1958 Corvette. I am not knowledgeable about Corvettes and would greatly appreicate some help. I would like to know if there is anything special about this particular one. I don't think the rims are original, but if anyone could tell me for sure I would appreciate it. Here's what I know about the car. It's a one owner. I have a picture of the original title in the album. The last registration I found was for 1965. I doubt it has been driven since. It spent most of the time since then in an unheated garage. The hard top was stolen. I'm afraid to take a look at the convertible top. The rear end was changed to a 4.10 because the bolts on the original kept backing out. Here's the link to the photo album:
http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/x...58%20Corvette/
I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/x...58%20Corvette/
I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
#2
Tech Contributor
Holy Cow, a fuel injected 58!
I see it has the correct hood, and the expensive hard-to-find trunk chrome. Car looks to have led a hard life but generally looks to be intact but for some incorrect seat covers.
Hub caps are "dog dish" so it's possible this could be a "big brake" car. Check for evidence of cooling vents/ducts behind the front brake backing plates.
I can't offer an opinion on the wheels, they don't look wrong to me, but I couldn't say for sure.
Front grille teeth and bar are missing as is the ignition shielding.
I can see the windshield washer bottle is even still in place on the passenger side fenderwell.
Car looks to have been pretty darned complete when it was parked.
So what is special about this car:
I see it has the correct hood, and the expensive hard-to-find trunk chrome. Car looks to have led a hard life but generally looks to be intact but for some incorrect seat covers.
Hub caps are "dog dish" so it's possible this could be a "big brake" car. Check for evidence of cooling vents/ducts behind the front brake backing plates.
I can't offer an opinion on the wheels, they don't look wrong to me, but I couldn't say for sure.
Front grille teeth and bar are missing as is the ignition shielding.
I can see the windshield washer bottle is even still in place on the passenger side fenderwell.
Car looks to have been pretty darned complete when it was parked.
So what is special about this car:
- Fuel injected
- possibly big brake car
- correct hood and trunk chrome
- largely intact
Last edited by 62Jeff; 10-25-2009 at 05:56 PM.
#3
Racer
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: America's North Coast Minnesota
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Major, major project. Usually people put 4:10's in to go fast, not fix a problem.
This would take considerable money to get even decent. Figure $4-5K just in chrome plating. Easily another $5-10K to get it roadworthy. Looks like it might have some rust issues too.
That being said, a very cool car, I want it.
Be careful not too much money for it. You'll definitely have more money into it than its worth no matter how far you take it. But isn't that what this hobby is all about?
This would take considerable money to get even decent. Figure $4-5K just in chrome plating. Easily another $5-10K to get it roadworthy. Looks like it might have some rust issues too.
That being said, a very cool car, I want it.
Be careful not too much money for it. You'll definitely have more money into it than its worth no matter how far you take it. But isn't that what this hobby is all about?
I have come across a 1958 Corvette. I am not knowledgeable about Corvettes and would greatly appreicate some help. I would like to know if there is anything special about this particular one. I don't think the rims are original, but if anyone could tell me for sure I would appreciate it. Here's what I know about the car. It's a one owner. I have a picture of the original title in the album. The last registration I found was for 1965. I doubt it has been driven since. It spent most of the time since then in an unheated garage. The hard top was stolen. I'm afraid to take a look at the convertible top. The rear end was changed to a 4.10 because the bolts on the original kept backing out. Here's the link to the photo album:
http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/x...58%20Corvette/
I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/x...58%20Corvette/
I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
#4
Racer
looks pretty good to do a restore on lots to work with. Man oh man i re did my 58 it looks just like your only finished. Alot of hard but great work ahead of you. let use know if you get it.
#6
Melting Slicks
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: New Jersey. The deer ate my Garden State.
Posts: 3,073
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
I have come across a 1958 Corvette. I am not knowledgeable about Corvettes and would greatly appreicate some help. I would like to know if there is anything special about this particular one. I don't think the rims are original, but if anyone could tell me for sure I would appreciate it. Here's what I know about the car. It's a one owner. I have a picture of the original title in the album. The last registration I found was for 1965. I doubt it has been driven since. It spent most of the time since then in an unheated garage. The hard top was stolen. I'm afraid to take a look at the convertible top. The rear end was changed to a 4.10 because the bolts on the original kept backing out. Here's the link to the photo album:
http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/x...58%20Corvette/
I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
http://s768.photobucket.com/albums/x...58%20Corvette/
I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
#8
Race Director
Looks fairly compete, but that car is going to need absolutely everything done to it.
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
#9
8th Gear
Thread Starter
Member Since: Oct 2009
Location: Indianapolis IN
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What would be a fair price for this car? I've heard these cars have frame rot, so I plan to get it on a lift and take pictures of the underneath next week. But in the mean time, anyone like to give an opinion on price?
Thanks
Thanks
#11
could possibly help with justifying cars purchase
Hi,
I live about 30 miles south of Indy and am pretty familiar with these cars. I am currently doing a couple 56's of my own. If you would like to call me for some help feel free. My name is Mike Anderson (317)729-2418 and maybe I can help you. I also restore the solid axle cars after 1955.
Later Mike
I live about 30 miles south of Indy and am pretty familiar with these cars. I am currently doing a couple 56's of my own. If you would like to call me for some help feel free. My name is Mike Anderson (317)729-2418 and maybe I can help you. I also restore the solid axle cars after 1955.
Later Mike
#12
Racer
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: America's North Coast Minnesota
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Looks fairly compete, but that car is going to need absolutely everything done to it.
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
#13
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Minnetonka, Mn
Posts: 5,064
Received 1,720 Likes
on
805 Posts
2018 C1 of Year Finalist
It is amazing that these cars are still out there. This will have to be a labor of love and it will take someone with deep pockets, a love for the marque, and some real patience to see this through, not to mention a lot of energy.
Maybe the owner will take a listed equity, like Amazon, in trade for the car....
Maybe the owner will take a listed equity, like Amazon, in trade for the car....
#14
Tech Contributor
I don't know, I don't see this car being as bad off as most others see it.
To fully restore a car, everything is stripped to it's base component and refinished, so I don't get too worried about the dirty condition of the car and interior, as long as the frame isn't rotted, the running gear is salvageable, etc.
Granted some of the chrome is more pitted than preferred, which will require $$ to repair, but for heaven's sake it's a complete Fuelie so if any barn find deserved to be saved, this is one of them.
To fully restore a car, everything is stripped to it's base component and refinished, so I don't get too worried about the dirty condition of the car and interior, as long as the frame isn't rotted, the running gear is salvageable, etc.
Granted some of the chrome is more pitted than preferred, which will require $$ to repair, but for heaven's sake it's a complete Fuelie so if any barn find deserved to be saved, this is one of them.
#15
54 Vette Rod
Looks fairly compete, but that car is going to need absolutely everything done to it.
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
There would be a long line.
#16
Race Director
To me it looks like almost everything needs to be replaced - you'd be pretty much starting with a basic body. I would imagine the frame is as bad as the rest of the metal items that are shown. I think it would be one of those projects that will cost more to restore than what it would be worth when completed.
#17
Safety Car
Looks fairly compete, but that car is going to need absolutely everything done to it.
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
IF it is a matching numbers motor and trans,and dizzy and generator and FI unit, I would say buy it for maybe $20K and spend $50K making it a nice car. with a liberal amount of your unpaid labor added in.
If it isn't matching, $10K plus same .
Doug
Yup, as it sits 20K no sweat.
Take your time and get it running and maybe roadworthy first and enjoy the ride. Too many blow 'em apart trying to fix everything at once and get way upside down in a project.
#18
Big Dough
This has all the markings of a big dollar car. If the numbers on the tranny block and injection are correct and it is a big break car, no way you can touch it for 20K let alone 10K. This is a 100k plus car when its done if everything is correct. Right now I have to believe it's a worth at least 33K. Junk goes for 25K. Greg
#19
Instructor
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Bowling Green Kentucky
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
not a HD brake car......
If it were, the opening behind the front bumpers would be open for the air deflectors, further, I don't think I see the air ducts in the shot of the left rear wheel. I think the wheels are the standard 5" wheels, though it's a little tough to see in these pics. There should be an extra raised rib on the wheels outside the hubcap rim in the center and I don't think I see it. From these angles they do't look to have the extra 1/2" depth. The valve stims do line up with the lug nuts but appear to be the standard size, so I'm betting they are standard 5" wheels. (too bad, 'cause they would be worth a pretty penny!) Just can't tell for sure.
Also, cool, is the fact that the car is not only a fuelie, but a HIGH HORSE fuelie, AND it's complete!!!
I agree that there are probably some real rust issues, from what we see. I would figure to say that there is some rust-through on the axle kickups over the axle and on the rear cross member and probably some heavy pitting on the x-member and main frame rails as well. On an early car like that I would be mindful of the condition of the fiberglass under that paint. It is so old and fatigued, depending on where the car sat and for how long, there could be some issues with rot in the upper glass/gelcoat of the body. The whole body may need glassing over as a result.
Overall, a really cool car though and one I would love to play with. Especially love the 58's with the red interior! If I owned it, I would buy the car and tour with it for a year to shows, just so people could see a REAL BARN FIND.
Also, I would contact the Corvette Museum with an idea I've always had. They should have a "barn find" display with a car just like this, weeds and leaves intact, create fictitious 'barn' and the car setting in it, or being removed and loaded onto a trailer after its discovery. I think this would be a cool display and different from any of the others at the museum.....
But the original Indiana title........thats can't be beat!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, cool, is the fact that the car is not only a fuelie, but a HIGH HORSE fuelie, AND it's complete!!!
I agree that there are probably some real rust issues, from what we see. I would figure to say that there is some rust-through on the axle kickups over the axle and on the rear cross member and probably some heavy pitting on the x-member and main frame rails as well. On an early car like that I would be mindful of the condition of the fiberglass under that paint. It is so old and fatigued, depending on where the car sat and for how long, there could be some issues with rot in the upper glass/gelcoat of the body. The whole body may need glassing over as a result.
Overall, a really cool car though and one I would love to play with. Especially love the 58's with the red interior! If I owned it, I would buy the car and tour with it for a year to shows, just so people could see a REAL BARN FIND.
Also, I would contact the Corvette Museum with an idea I've always had. They should have a "barn find" display with a car just like this, weeds and leaves intact, create fictitious 'barn' and the car setting in it, or being removed and loaded onto a trailer after its discovery. I think this would be a cool display and different from any of the others at the museum.....
But the original Indiana title........thats can't be beat!!!!!!!!!!!
#20
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Minnetonka, Mn
Posts: 5,064
Received 1,720 Likes
on
805 Posts
2018 C1 of Year Finalist
I don't know, I don't see this car being as bad off as most others see it.
To fully restore a car, everything is stripped to it's base component and refinished, so I don't get too worried about the dirty condition of the car and interior, as long as the frame isn't rotted, the running gear is salvageable, etc.
Granted some of the chrome is more pitted than preferred, which will require $$ to repair, but for heaven's sake it's a complete Fuelie so if any barn find deserved to be saved, this is one of them.
To fully restore a car, everything is stripped to it's base component and refinished, so I don't get too worried about the dirty condition of the car and interior, as long as the frame isn't rotted, the running gear is salvageable, etc.
Granted some of the chrome is more pitted than preferred, which will require $$ to repair, but for heaven's sake it's a complete Fuelie so if any barn find deserved to be saved, this is one of them.
In this market, what does a completed car like this bring? Unless one is looking for the next big adventure, and if you have the money to do both, why not just buy a restored car?
I think the guy that puts this together, not knowing about the frame, is buying a pig in a poke and I think someone will probably be seriously upside down on this project by the end, assuming that he or she has the tenacity to see it through. That is probably the biggest challenge and risk of all---seeing this through to completion. What is a half restored '58 fuelie worth?