327 Head question
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Burning Brakes
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327 Head question
Okay guys,
Some of you know about my wintertime project that involved me pulling the motor from my L-79 for paint and clean up, not to mention all the small details that go along with something like this.
Moving forward, I pulled the heads to not only clean but to change the head gaskets. I sent them over to the machine shop for a hot tank and I also replaced the valve seals while I was at it (had to anyway after the hot tank).
Now I have what might be a dumb rookie question, is there a left and right head? Before you ask, I do have the lifters, rockers, and push rod in order so they can go back in exactly the way they came out. I did not mark the heads (my bad) when I pulled them. Does it matter? There are different markings in the casting on each head. They both have the same casting number but towards the center there is a GM number.
Thanks for any help…
~Mike
Some of you know about my wintertime project that involved me pulling the motor from my L-79 for paint and clean up, not to mention all the small details that go along with something like this.
Moving forward, I pulled the heads to not only clean but to change the head gaskets. I sent them over to the machine shop for a hot tank and I also replaced the valve seals while I was at it (had to anyway after the hot tank).
Now I have what might be a dumb rookie question, is there a left and right head? Before you ask, I do have the lifters, rockers, and push rod in order so they can go back in exactly the way they came out. I did not mark the heads (my bad) when I pulled them. Does it matter? There are different markings in the casting on each head. They both have the same casting number but towards the center there is a GM number.
Thanks for any help…
~Mike
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Melting Slicks
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but are there two different types of valve spring retainers on your heads?
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Since you are going to be reusing these parts, it would have been ideal to put them back in their exact location on the head they came off, but the most important thing is you marked the lifters and rockers so it should not be a problem. If you look closely at the head and block surfaces, you might find some small imperfection that would confirm which head came off which side originally. Otherwise don't loose sleep over it. Pilot Dan
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Since the heads are all cleaned up I would suggest new springs and retainers as it may still have the rotators on the valves....also cut the guides down for camshaft clearances......then the heads will be set up for a better cam in the future if ever changed or replaced and its a relatively minor cost now
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I wouldn't spend any money on springs, valves, hardened seats, screw in studs/guide plates or any such upgrades unless you are going to change over to a more aggressive camshaft.
Send me the heads and I'll port them for you. Mine got flows upwards of 250/190 cfm @ .5" valve lift with 2.02/1.60 461's. Exhaust ports went close to 200 @ .6" lift. That is a modification that will gain you more torque across the entire rev range all by itself.
Send me the heads and I'll port them for you. Mine got flows upwards of 250/190 cfm @ .5" valve lift with 2.02/1.60 461's. Exhaust ports went close to 200 @ .6" lift. That is a modification that will gain you more torque across the entire rev range all by itself.
Last edited by 65tripleblack; 12-11-2010 at 05:48 AM. Reason: correction
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Nahhhhh.
Getting ALL the power out of a set of old heads gives you bragging rights. Besides.............it saves a lot of money if ya do them right.
If I'm not mistaken, my 461's weighed in at about 35 pounds each. I don't know how much an aluminum SBC head weighs, but if I was being generous and say it weighs 20 pounds, then that adds up to a total savings of 30 pounds.
Getting ALL the power out of a set of old heads gives you bragging rights. Besides.............it saves a lot of money if ya do them right.
If I'm not mistaken, my 461's weighed in at about 35 pounds each. I don't know how much an aluminum SBC head weighs, but if I was being generous and say it weighs 20 pounds, then that adds up to a total savings of 30 pounds.
Last edited by 65tripleblack; 12-11-2010 at 05:46 AM. Reason: add last paragraph
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When I had my stroked 327 dyno'd, I tried three sets of heads, tested on the same dyno, over a two day period. A set of Dart 200 CC Pro 1 platinum aluminum heads were only worth 12 HP over my 1962 300 HP heads that had 2.02/1.60 valves and a little clean-up work.
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Since the heads are all cleaned up I would suggest new springs and retainers as it may still have the rotators on the valves....also cut the guides down for camshaft clearances......then the heads will be set up for a better cam in the future if ever changed or replaced and its a relatively minor cost now
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I wouldn't spend any money on springs, valves, hardened seats, screw in studs/guide plates or any such upgrades unless you are going to change over to a more aggressive camshaft.
Send me the heads and I'll port them for you. Mine got flows upwards of 250/190 cfm @ .5" valve lift with 2.02/1.60 461's. Exhaust ports went close to 200 @ .6" lift. That is a modification that will gain you more torque across the entire rev range all by itself.
Send me the heads and I'll port them for you. Mine got flows upwards of 250/190 cfm @ .5" valve lift with 2.02/1.60 461's. Exhaust ports went close to 200 @ .6" lift. That is a modification that will gain you more torque across the entire rev range all by itself.
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A simple pocket port job will achieve flow gains equivalent to about 75% of the above, and can be done in a reasonable time period.
Last edited by 65tripleblack; 12-12-2010 at 09:19 AM.
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you dont have the factory " drilled for accy." heads. Some folks have drilled them on their own..which may make a difference in the right and left heads if they didnt drill both ends like the factory did. Otherwise, no diff.