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Old 11-03-2018, 09:04 AM
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Hi Guys,
I am new here.
Recently took delivery of what I understand to be D&D Grand Sport Replica #111.
How can I definitively identify this as a D&D Replica?
Have been a Grand Sport fan since I saw my first Grand Sport in the Corvette Corral, at Bloomington Gold back in 1985.
Looking forward to learning more about this particular car, as well as all Grand Sports!

I'd say you have a D&D GS.

Typically (but not always) D&D Grand Sports have a VIN plate attached either to the driver's side door pillar or to the driver's side frame tube in the engine compartment. Does your car have a VIN plate in either of these locations?


In 2004 a D&D Grand Sport identified as DDGS0111 was listed on EBay and located in Texas. The car was unfinished at the time and biding did not meet the reserve. Constructed on a Sting Ray chassis, this is how it looked:




This could be your car. Is yours built on a Sting Ray frame?

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Originally Posted by jim lockwood View Post
I'd say you have a D&D GS.

Typically (but not always) D&D Grand Sports have a VIN plate attached either to the driver's side door pillar or to the driver's side frame tube in the engine compartment. Does your car have a VIN plate in either of these locations?


In 2004 a D&D Grand Sport identified as DDGS0111 was listed on EBay and located in Texas. The car was unfinished at the time and biding did not meet the reserve. Constructed on a Sting Ray chassis, this is how it looked:




This could be your car. Is yours built on a Sting Ray frame?

Jim
I think this car has been around.
Here is what I know.
It is not a tube chassis car.
I believe it is built on a '76 Corvette chassis.
I live in the Northwest suburbs of Chicago.
I took delivery of this car last month, from a dealer in Florida.
I believe he took it in trade as part of a deal with the previous owner.
The car was titled as a Chev. Replica in North Carolina.
I had found some PICS of this car , still unpainted out in Ladera Ranch California around 2015/2016.
This matches paperwork that I have, stating that the engine was built in California.
I will be trying to reach the previous owner, not been successful yet.
I have a PIC of the D&D VIN plate, however it is attached to the dash below the glovebox opening .

It looks like it could have been made by any one, because it has no manufacturer identifying marks, or anything.

Thanks for your information, and interest !
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I think this car has gotten around.
My name is Burk, and I live in the far Northwest suburbs of Chicago.
I took delivery of this car, last month from a dealer in Florida.
I believe he took it in trade on another deal, from the previous owner.
The car was titled in North Carolina.
I had seen some unfinished PICS of this car, placing it for sale, unpainted , out in Ladera Ranch California, about 2015/2016.
This matches some paperwork I have showing, the engine being built out in California.
It is not a tube chassis car, I believe it is built on a '76 Corvette chassis.
I have the D&D VIN tag, it is placed just below the glovebox opening on the dash.
It looks like it could have been made by anyone, since it bears no manufacturer logo or any identifying marks.


Also it seems odd to me that #111 would not be a tube chassis car, considering that 134 were built, and this would not have been an early car.
Thanks for your PIC, and you information!
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:10 PM
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Hi again.
My name is Burk.
I live in the far Northwest suburbs of Chicago.
Here is what I know about this GS.
I took delivery of this car last month, from a classic car dealer in Florida.
I believe he took it in trade, on another deal with the previous owner.
The title was in North Carolina.
The PIC you showed, is close to PICS I had found showing this car for sale (still unpainted), from Ladera Ranch California, about 2015/2016.
This also matches paperwork I have, showing the current engine as being built in California.
I have a VIN tag, but it is mounted on the dash, below the glovebox opening.
It looks like anyone could have made it , since there is no type of manufacturer ID on it, just a stamped aluminum plate.
This is not a tube chassis car.
I believe it is built on a '76 Corvette chassis.
Seems odd to me that #111 would not be a tube chassis, being that it is not an early car.
I understand that 134 D&D Grand Sports were built.
Thanks for your info,
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Originally Posted by burkh View Post
Hi again.
My name is Burk.
I live in the far Northwest suburbs of Chicago.
Welcome, Burk, to the Grand Sport thread.
Here is what I know about this GS.
I took delivery of this car last month, from a classic car dealer in Florida.
It's sharp looking, nicely finished.
I have a VIN tag, but it is mounted on the dash, below the glovebox opening.
Its location doesn't worry me. Late in D&D production many anomalies happened.
It looks like anyone could have made it , since there is no type of manufacturer ID on it, just a stamped aluminum plate.
I'm convinced it's a D&D. There are many body details which I find persuasive.

We owned the original D&D tube frame GS prototype. Nowhere on our car was there any mark which identified its origin either. The VIN didn't even include "DDGS" or anything remotely similar.
Seems odd to me that #111 would not be a tube chassis, being that it is not an early car.
Not at all unusual. The tube frame was optional.
I understand that 134 D&D Grand Sports were built.
What is your source of that number, if you don't mind me asking. I have records on D&D #151 and D&D #192. However, D&D didn't assign sequential numbers to every car they built. Our prototype, for example, has a Julian date for a VIN. The lowest sequential serial number I've seen is #020.
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Sorry for the multiple posts. . Wasn’t sure how long it takes a post to show up. The number of 134 D&D Grand Sports being built, is something I saw in multiple Grand Sport sale ads. . . May have just been picked up somewhere and repeated.
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I doubt that anyone knows the exact number of D&D Grand Sports produced.
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I have a couple more questions.
What are more cues that would verify that this is a D&D?
I have more PICS as well.
The rear brake scoops are canted a little outboard, I understand that this is a cue.
I am understanding that the D&D molds were pulled from an original Grand Sport.
Is this the case?
Are any of the D&D people around anymore to contribute information, or have they dropped off the radar?
If this is D&D #111, can it be placed in any time frame, as to when it was originally built?
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Originally Posted by burkh View Post
I have a couple more questions.
What are more cues that would verify that this is a D&D?
The shapes of the rear fender flares and the rear brake scoops are consistent with D&D bodies.
I am understanding that the D&D molds were pulled from an original Grand Sport.
Is this the case?
That rumor pops up from time to time but I've never seen any verification of the claim. Such a claim is usually embedded in a for sale ad, probably to boost the asking price.

I don't believe it.
Are any of the D&D people around anymore to contribute information, or have they dropped off the radar?
Who knows? Go on a quest for Dean Hoskins or Dante Lombardi (sp?) in Ohio.
If this is D&D #111, can it be placed in any time frame, as to when it was originally built?
My SWAG is that it was built prior to 2002. My first awareness of your car was in January 2003 so it was obviously in existence by then.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:35 AM
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Dean Hoskins is on Facebook, and Posts info/Pics sometimes..… Yes, he is still in Akron, Ohio
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Still being new here, WOW this thread has been around for quite some time!
I'm a few years behind in my reading of this thread, but catching up.
Saw a scan of an early MAI brochure.
I have a couple of old MAI Brochures, one of which I picked up at Bloomington Gold, back in 1985.
This is when I first became aware of GS Replicas, and quite frankly, started getting pretty cranked up about all things Grand Sport.
I scanned them and here they are.
I also have a couple of price lists, that accompanied these Brochures, if any one is interested.
If I am not mistaken, I believe the brochure car pictured, was present at Bloomington, that year.
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Originally Posted by burkh View Post
I also have a couple of price lists, that accompanied these Brochures, if any one is interested.
If I am not mistaken, I believe the brochure car pictured, was present at Bloomington, that year.
Thanks for posting those and please do post the price list also.

FWIW,I saw that car at Bloomington in '83.
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See post # 24 and 25 in this thread:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...acement-2.html

This is also some good information:

https://www.racingicons.com/gs/power.htm

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Here is an early price list from MAI
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Here is a later version of the MAI price list I believe from 1985.
This one is, only one page.
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I live near the defunct Meadowdale International Raceway, now Raceway Woods, located near Carpentersville, IL.
It was active from 1958 to 1969.
I have am wondering if any Grand Sports ever raced there.
I have searched for information and images, and have seen some articles that suggest they may have been there, but nothing definitive.
Just curious, wondering if anyone here has even heard of Meadowdale.
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