What is the correct number for a 1962 starter
#22
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Inside your head now, eh?
[QUOTE=MikeM;1579087097] I just spent about an hour going back through his posts over the last couple years on this forum and his posts reflect almost NO personal experience or technical advice not commonly found anywhere.
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Hi Mike - Sorry to take so long in getting back to you, but I spent the afternoon doing something productive - rebuilding one of the SU fuel pumps on my '73 XJ6. Took you off of "ignore" just for fun this one time to give you a little insight into my experience beyond what you have read in my profile, since you seem so interested and actually spent an hour checking up on me. I've owned my C2 for 40 years last month; 2nd owner , bought it from my college room mate. 3 engines, 2 transmissions since then. So, I do have a modicum of experience there. You?
Admittedly I don't know everything or have it all memorized, so I do use references frequently. Is there something wrong with that? Do you know it all by heart?
Tell you what, this crap between you and I has gotten way out of hand. In another thread, you suggested I look in the mirror. While I didn't care for him personaly there's a quote from a Michael Jackson song that seems appropriate here:
"I'm looking at the man in the mirror,
I'm asking him to change his ways"
Are you willing and able to do the same?
PS - railroads were actually designed by Civil Engineers, so thanks for the compliment!
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Hi Mike - Sorry to take so long in getting back to you, but I spent the afternoon doing something productive - rebuilding one of the SU fuel pumps on my '73 XJ6. Took you off of "ignore" just for fun this one time to give you a little insight into my experience beyond what you have read in my profile, since you seem so interested and actually spent an hour checking up on me. I've owned my C2 for 40 years last month; 2nd owner , bought it from my college room mate. 3 engines, 2 transmissions since then. So, I do have a modicum of experience there. You?
Admittedly I don't know everything or have it all memorized, so I do use references frequently. Is there something wrong with that? Do you know it all by heart?
Tell you what, this crap between you and I has gotten way out of hand. In another thread, you suggested I look in the mirror. While I didn't care for him personaly there's a quote from a Michael Jackson song that seems appropriate here:
"I'm looking at the man in the mirror,
I'm asking him to change his ways"
Are you willing and able to do the same?
PS - railroads were actually designed by Civil Engineers, so thanks for the compliment!
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#23
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Funs over, now back to serious business (Corvettes)
OK, since I started this thread maybe I can end it. Your right, I was acting like a child, but when he called me an expert, (meaning it sarcastically) it rubbed me the wrong way. I was only giving my opinion. But he was right about one thing. I am a taker, simply because I’m not C1 smart enough to be a giver, at least not yet. BTW, MikeM, thanks for your support.
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Hi John -
Just out of curiosity, do you think that the two sources discussed above about the 889s being used in early production '62s are incorrect, or is it just that NCRS recognizes only the 233 for judging purposes even if the 889 was used in early production cars?
Thanks,
Glenn
Just out of curiosity, do you think that the two sources discussed above about the 889s being used in early production '62s are incorrect, or is it just that NCRS recognizes only the 233 for judging purposes even if the 889 was used in early production cars?
Thanks,
Glenn
It's impossible to use an 889 starter in a '62 Powerglide car; the 889 starter bolts to the bellhousing, and all '62 Powerglide cars use a completely different starter (the 242) that bolts to the engine block.
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Enough of this BS. I'd recommend the two members bickering back and forth to have a Coke and a smile and grow up or I'll arrange a vacation from the forum for both of you.
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Hi John -
Just out of curiosity, do you think that the two sources discussed above about the 889s being used in early production '62s are incorrect, or is it just that NCRS recognizes only the 233 for judging purposes even if the 889 was used in early production cars?
Thanks,
Glenn
Just out of curiosity, do you think that the two sources discussed above about the 889s being used in early production '62s are incorrect, or is it just that NCRS recognizes only the 233 for judging purposes even if the 889 was used in early production cars?
Thanks,
Glenn
The starters shown in the NCRS JG (and in the NCRS Pocket Spec Guide) are there because that's what's shown in the Engineering specs, the Assembly Manual, and what's been observed in hundreds of known-original judged cars over the last 37 years.
It's impossible to use an 889 starter in a '62 Powerglide car; the 889 starter bolts to the bellhousing, and all '62 Powerglide cars use a completely different starter (the 242) that bolts to the engine block.
It's impossible to use an 889 starter in a '62 Powerglide car; the 889 starter bolts to the bellhousing, and all '62 Powerglide cars use a completely different starter (the 242) that bolts to the engine block.
For example, the AIM apparently also inclued a reference to the 219 with a PG '62, but that evidently never went into production.
I'd be interested in what you think personally, if you care to elaborate further.
Thanks!
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What difference does it make, you can make any one of case numbers fit all of the engines and transmissions mentioned....all you need to do is change the nose that suits the bellhousing or block as a PG nose is differemt than a standard......Do these NCRS experts get underneath a car to check a number? And if they do, what difference dose it make.....For the most part rebuilders dont match numbers on cases to a particular nose........any one of the cases mentioned here might find a home on any GM car or truck with the proper nose, there not exclusive to fitting a Corvette.......
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Thanks, John! I'm still not sure I understand, 'tho. I realize your response was couched in your usual high standard of both technical knowledge and diplomacy, but since these two other sources both state that the 889s were used on early production manual transmission cars, I'm wondering if that is still a possiblity?
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Wow - glad I took to the sidelines early on this one.
Don't know if its the approaching holidays or what but
the forum has gotten super contentious lately. My 'ignore list'
has doubled in size this month.
Don't know if its the approaching holidays or what but
the forum has gotten super contentious lately. My 'ignore list'
has doubled in size this month.
#33
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Hey Frank -
I actually tried reducing my ignore list, but so far it doesn't seem to have paid off....................