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Old 10-29-2011, 06:14 PM
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I never saw so many grown people acting like children, until I found the Corvette Forum.

Old 10-29-2011, 07:15 PM
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[QUOTE=MikeM;1579087097] I just spent about an hour going back through his posts over the last couple years on this forum and his posts reflect almost NO personal experience or technical advice not commonly found anywhere.

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Hi Mike - Sorry to take so long in getting back to you, but I spent the afternoon doing something productive - rebuilding one of the SU fuel pumps on my '73 XJ6. Took you off of "ignore" just for fun this one time to give you a little insight into my experience beyond what you have read in my profile, since you seem so interested and actually spent an hour checking up on me. I've owned my C2 for 40 years last month; 2nd owner , bought it from my college room mate. 3 engines, 2 transmissions since then. So, I do have a modicum of experience there. You?

Admittedly I don't know everything or have it all memorized, so I do use references frequently. Is there something wrong with that? Do you know it all by heart?

Tell you what, this crap between you and I has gotten way out of hand. In another thread, you suggested I look in the mirror. While I didn't care for him personaly there's a quote from a Michael Jackson song that seems appropriate here:

"I'm looking at the man in the mirror,
I'm asking him to change his ways"

Are you willing and able to do the same?



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I never saw so many grown people acting like children, until I found the Corvette Forum.

OK, since I started this thread maybe I can end it. Your right, I was acting like a child, but when he called me an expert, (meaning it sarcastically) it rubbed me the wrong way. I was only giving my opinion. But he was right about one thing. I am a taker, simply because I’m not C1 smart enough to be a giver, at least not yet. BTW, MikeM, thanks for your support.
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Originally Posted by tuxnharley
Hi John -

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the two sources discussed above about the 889s being used in early production '62s are incorrect, or is it just that NCRS recognizes only the 233 for judging purposes even if the 889 was used in early production cars?
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The starters shown in the NCRS JG (and in the NCRS Pocket Spec Guide) are there because that's what's shown in the Engineering specs, the Assembly Manual, and what's been observed in hundreds of known-original judged cars over the last 37 years.

It's impossible to use an 889 starter in a '62 Powerglide car; the 889 starter bolts to the bellhousing, and all '62 Powerglide cars use a completely different starter (the 242) that bolts to the engine block.
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Enough of this BS. I'd recommend the two members bickering back and forth to have a Coke and a smile and grow up or I'll arrange a vacation from the forum for both of you.
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Originally Posted by tuxnharley
Hi John -

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the two sources discussed above about the 889s being used in early production '62s are incorrect, or is it just that NCRS recognizes only the 233 for judging purposes even if the 889 was used in early production cars?
Thanks,
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The starters shown in the NCRS JG (and in the NCRS Pocket Spec Guide) are there because that's what's shown in the Engineering specs, the Assembly Manual, and what's been observed in hundreds of known-original judged cars over the last 37 years.

It's impossible to use an 889 starter in a '62 Powerglide car; the 889 starter bolts to the bellhousing, and all '62 Powerglide cars use a completely different starter (the 242) that bolts to the engine block.
Thanks, John! I'm still not sure I understand, 'tho. I realize your response was couched in your usual high standard of both technical knowledge and diplomacy, but since these two other sources both state that the 889s were used on early production manual transmission cars, I'm wondering if that is still a possiblity?

For example, the AIM apparently also inclued a reference to the 219 with a PG '62, but that evidently never went into production.

I'd be interested in what you think personally, if you care to elaborate further.

Thanks!

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Enough of this BS. I'd recommend the two members bickering back and forth to have a Coke and a smile and grow up or I'll arrange a vacation from the forum for both of you.
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Originally Posted by H P Bushrod
Enough of this BS. I'd recommend the two members bickering back and forth to have a Coke and a smile and grow up or I'll arrange a vacation from the forum for both of you.
aye aye sir
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What difference does it make, you can make any one of case numbers fit all of the engines and transmissions mentioned....all you need to do is change the nose that suits the bellhousing or block as a PG nose is differemt than a standard......Do these NCRS experts get underneath a car to check a number? And if they do, what difference dose it make.....For the most part rebuilders dont match numbers on cases to a particular nose........any one of the cases mentioned here might find a home on any GM car or truck with the proper nose, there not exclusive to fitting a Corvette.......

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Originally Posted by tuxnharley
Thanks, John! I'm still not sure I understand, 'tho. I realize your response was couched in your usual high standard of both technical knowledge and diplomacy, but since these two other sources both state that the 889s were used on early production manual transmission cars, I'm wondering if that is still a possiblity?
The '61-'62 Judging Guide (which I don't have) will indicate what starters were used for both manual and Powerglide applications, including any "early" or "late" usages that were different than those that were "typical" for the model year, if applicable. '61-'62's have been judged for 37 years, so there's good history on them.
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Originally Posted by gofastvette
Do these NCRS experts get underneath a car to check a number?
Yes, we do - starters are checked as part of the "Chassis" judging section. If the car isn't going to be judged, it doesn't matter - if the appearance of originality is important, it does.
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Wow - glad I took to the sidelines early on this one.
Don't know if its the approaching holidays or what but
the forum has gotten super contentious lately. My 'ignore list'
has doubled in size this month.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Wow - glad I took to the sidelines early on this one.
Don't know if its the approaching holidays or what but
the forum has gotten super contentious lately. My 'ignore list'
has doubled in size this month
.


Hey Frank -
I actually tried reducing my ignore list, but so far it doesn't seem to have paid off....................




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