4 speed vs Automatic- effect on car value ?
05-31-2013, 02:19 PM
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My Vette has an Art Carr 200R4 in it behind a 383 stroker. I wouldn't trade it for any stick and its not only easier to drive but most likely faster than if it had a stick shift trans. I'm 69 years old and also ride a 425 HP V8 powered Chopper, not a Boss Hoss. It's a ten second quarter mile bike that is ridden regularly around town and some hundred mile trips. It would be a 9 second bike if it had a slick for a rear tire. I also have a Boss Hoss with a 385 HP ZZ4 in it that although slower than the Chopper will smoke most muscle cars, it's my touring bike. In any event I don't agree with Parsons this time that if you have an automatic in your vette that makes you a girlie man. I also don't think any vette can be much of a status symbol. To me they're just a good looking fun car to drive especially if they're modified to make them that way. In reality they are a plastic car with a Chevrolet engine with an inflated value due to the hype about the desireability of matching numbers and TV auctions.
08-28-2019, 02:08 PM
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Automatics have progressed substantively since the days of the PG. They are now faster, more fuel efficient and have more speeds. I went through the Corvette plant 2 years ago and at that time 80% of new Vettes were ordered as automatics. Its hard to say if one is better, its a matter of what you like. I have several Vettes with both manual and automatic transmissions. I think the best answer is to have one of each. Its nice to go for a casual relaxing drive in an auto, and its fun to rip through the gears. Anymore the price difference between the two has narrowed. Not many early automatics around and dealers say they are receiving more and more demand for C1 and C2 automatics. I hate to admit it, but the older I get, the more I lean to an automatic. When I was in my teens and twenties, I would not even consider an automatic. A lot of it depends on your driving conditions. If you are in heavy traffic a lot, the automatic is preferred. You just take your foot off the brake and creep ahead. This auto/manual trans issue has been discussed many times on CF and there is really no right answer. Its a matter of what is right for you.
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08-28-2019, 02:45 PM
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4 speed vs Automatic- effect on car value ?
Automatics....slight decrease "For Now"
In 20 or 30 years from now......manuals will be worth much less.
2018 stats: Only 2-3% of USA (population of drivers) know how to drive stick shift.
We all know the new C8 Corvette all come in 100% automatics.
The very few American drivers in 20-30 years who will know how to drive a stick shift is estimated to be < 1% of the" driving population"
Even the announcers on Mecum Auctions are saying they are see more and more Resto-Mod Cars/trucks and their desire to own and buy is increasing each year at the auction....Thus, their values are also increasing each year.
My opinion: The window for higher prices for stick shifts is coming to a close.
Automatics....slight decrease "For Now"
In 20 or 30 years from now......manuals will be worth much less.
2018 stats: Only 2-3% of USA (population of drivers) know how to drive stick shift.
We all know the new C8 Corvette all come in 100% automatics.
The very few American drivers in 20-30 years who will know how to drive a stick shift is estimated to be < 1% of the" driving population"
Even the announcers on Mecum Auctions are saying they are see more and more Resto-Mod Cars/trucks and their desire to own and buy is increasing each year at the auction....Thus, their values are also increasing each year.
My opinion: The window for higher prices for stick shifts is coming to a close.
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08-28-2019, 03:17 PM
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What is your source for this number?
08-28-2019, 03:33 PM
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Stick shifts represented 6.8 percent of U.S. vehicle sales in 2012, according to IHS Markit. But that figure has tumbled to an estimated 3.5 percent in 2018"
IHS Markit Ltd is a London–based( global information provider) that was formed in 2016 when IHS Inc. and Markit Ltd. The report was only based on the U.S.A. vehicle market.
08-28-2019, 03:49 PM
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I agree. Almost everybody I know (and many of them are much younger than baby boomers like myself) knows how to drive a standard shift. When I was in driver's training in high school in the 70's, we had to use driving simulators that were three-on-the-tree standard shift, with clutch pedal and the whole works. Everybody who took that class came out knowing how to operate a manual gearbox.
08-28-2019, 03:55 PM
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Stick shifts represented 6.8 percent of U.S. vehicle sales in 2012, according to IHS Markit. But that figure has tumbled to an estimated 3.5 percent in 2018"
IHS Markit Ltd is a London–based( global information provider) that was formed in 2016 when IHS Inc. and Markit Ltd. The report was only based on the U.S.A. vehicle market.
IHS Markit Ltd is a London–based( global information provider) that was formed in 2016 when IHS Inc. and Markit Ltd. The report was only based on the U.S.A. vehicle market.
08-28-2019, 04:26 PM
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Rant about automatics and the people who drive them. At least some (a lot) of them.
Being stopped going uphill on a hill, at say a red light, a steep hill, while driving a stick,a nd the ******* driving the automatic behind you pulls up 2 feet behind your bumper and stops tehre, cluelessly.
Doug
Being stopped going uphill on a hill, at say a red light, a steep hill, while driving a stick,a nd the ******* driving the automatic behind you pulls up 2 feet behind your bumper and stops tehre, cluelessly.
Doug
08-28-2019, 07:41 PM
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Had it happen to me many times where I live in the Ozark Mountains. They dont even consider that the car ahead of them may have a manual in it. Like you say, they pull up 2 feet behind you. I was told a judge would rule in our favor if there is any damage because there is no reason to pull up that close to the car ahead of you
08-28-2019, 07:53 PM
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The ‘67’s have an edge over the other C2 years when stopped on a hill because of the console-mounted hand brake.
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08-30-2019, 09:10 AM
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Eight (8) year old thread and still no answer
08-30-2019, 10:33 AM
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08-30-2019, 01:36 PM
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Wow, I grew up in a very large family, we all drove stick shifts, my wife and kids all can drive a stick shift. All of us.
Who did they poll to say only 2-3% know how to drive a stick. My guess is 40% of active drivers.
Who did they poll to say only 2-3% know how to drive a stick. My guess is 40% of active drivers.
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