What do you think of this '64 fuelie?
01-08-2012, 02:23 PM
#1
Pro
Thread Starter
What do you think of this '64 fuelie?
Hi all,
I have owned a number of C3's and recently have started to look for my first midyear. I have narrowed down my search to the following parameters:
- coupe
- fuelie
- original or with minor modifications
- preferably 4 speed
- would ideally like 63 split window, but probably I could not afford split window fuelie...
So, based on the criteria above, I have found several options, that caught my eye. This is one of them:
http://www.cars-on-line.com/37485.html
May I kindly ask for some input about the price and what you see in the pictures. Ok, I do agree, that they don't show much, but I will be in contact with seller for more information. Many many thanks!
I have owned a number of C3's and recently have started to look for my first midyear. I have narrowed down my search to the following parameters:
- coupe
- fuelie
- original or with minor modifications
- preferably 4 speed
- would ideally like 63 split window, but probably I could not afford split window fuelie...
So, based on the criteria above, I have found several options, that caught my eye. This is one of them:
http://www.cars-on-line.com/37485.html
May I kindly ask for some input about the price and what you see in the pictures. Ok, I do agree, that they don't show much, but I will be in contact with seller for more information. Many many thanks!
01-08-2012, 02:28 PM
#2
Team Owner
Member Since: Feb 2003
Location: Sitting in his Nowhere land Hanover Pa
Posts: 48,984
Received 6,928 Likes
on
4,774 Posts
2015 C2 of Year Finalist
I must say black with silver interior is a great combo. Would like to see the trim tag
01-08-2012, 02:31 PM
#3
Tech Contributor
Daytona blue.
Not enough detail in any of the pictures to have a clue what the price should be. If you get more pictures, post them and someone here can help.
Not enough detail in any of the pictures to have a clue what the price should be. If you get more pictures, post them and someone here can help.
01-08-2012, 02:39 PM
#4
Pro
Thread Starter
Thanks, guys! More pics are here. According to the seller, numbers match (engine pad, FI unit, etc):
http://www.scottsdalecorvettes.com/n...tte/index.html
Any red flags?
http://www.scottsdalecorvettes.com/n...tte/index.html
Any red flags?
01-08-2012, 07:44 PM
#5
Race Director
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: northern california
Posts: 13,602
Received 6,509 Likes
on
2,998 Posts
C2 of Year Finalist (track prepared) 2019
The pictures have insufficient resolution to permit drawing many conclusions either good or bad.
One thing I see is the choke heat tube is goofy looking
.... an amateur bending job if ever there was one.
Jim
One thing I see is the choke heat tube is goofy looking
.... an amateur bending job if ever there was one.Jim
01-09-2012, 09:59 AM
#7
Pro
Thread Starter
Thank you for comments, guys. Maybe this is not a politically correct question, but what do you think of the price, based on what you see in the ad?
01-09-2012, 10:32 AM
#8
Safety Car
My gut tells me that is all the money for that car if it is perfect. I know what my original 64 327/365 hp Daytona blue coupe is worth as i follow the market a bit. I do not follow the market for this particular car. Remember some think this year is the stepchild of all midyears (i don't) and many times the prices reflect that. If the car is all there, perfect, with all important pieces, solid, ect, ect, I would GUESS it would be a 65000 car max to the right person. You will get many here giving probably better advice than myself, but thought I would throw you my .2 cents!
01-09-2012, 10:41 AM
#9
Racer
Where is the PCV valve on the air meter? A 64 fuel unit should be a 7380 unit and have the PCV on the rear of the fuel meter. Is this a 63 fuel injection unit?
01-09-2012, 10:52 AM
#10
Team Owner
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes
on
1,398 Posts
Late '64 used a vacuum restrictor fitting in the front of the plenum (instead of the valve) and pulled in fresh air from the air cleaner adaptor back to the rear of the block.
Last edited by MikeM; 01-09-2012 at 10:59 AM.
01-09-2012, 10:57 AM
#11
Racer
Early '64's used the leftover 7375 units with a pcv dropping off the right rear of the plenum and connecting a metal tube go to the rear of the block.
Late '64 used a vacuum restrictor fitting in the front of the plenum (instead of the valve) and pulled in fresh air from the air cleaner adaptor back to the rear of the block.
Late '64 used a vacuum restrictor fitting in the front of the plenum (instead of the valve) and pulled in fresh air from the air cleaner adaptor back to the rear of the block.
01-09-2012, 11:39 AM
#12
Drifting
My gut tells me that is all the money for that car if it is perfect. I know what my original 64 327/365 hp Daytona blue coupe is worth as i follow the market a bit. I do not follow the market for this particular car. Remember some think this year is the stepchild of all midyears (i don't) and many times the prices reflect that. If the car is all there, perfect, with all important pieces, solid, ect, ect, I would GUESS it would be a 65000 car max to the right person. You will get many here giving probably better advice than myself, but thought I would throw you my .2 cents!
The pictures are not great but from what I can see the car looks to be in nice driver condition.If the car is matching# I would put the car in the low $50's
01-09-2012, 01:02 PM
#13
Pro
Thread Starter
01-09-2012, 01:12 PM
#14
Pro
Thread Starter
01-09-2012, 01:33 PM
#15
Team Owner
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes
on
1,398 Posts
01-09-2012, 01:42 PM
#16
Team Owner
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: cookeville tennessee
Posts: 28,846
Received 1,762 Likes
on
1,529 Posts
No way for a 64 and now knowing the f/i is not to the car and having to do something on that cant say it is one thing and really being something else. Hard people when it comes to selling a 100% org car and its not that for sure here....Plus a good 64 head unit will go for in the big $$. If all the other check out I would say 55,k to 60,k on the high side... Robert
01-09-2012, 01:42 PM
#17
Quote from Corvette Magazine's Market Report, "Without the cachet of the '63 or the upgraded hardware of later Sting Rays, '64s (22,229 built) are often overlooked by collectors. Forget the hype - paying lower prices for a stellar machine is good in our book."
01-09-2012, 03:09 PM
#18
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Minnetonka, Mn
Posts: 5,060
Received 1,718 Likes
on
804 Posts
2018 C1 of Year Finalist
First, a couple of things. You need to be wary of any Corvette that is selling as an original FI car. There is too much of a financial incentive to fake these cars, so be sure to perform due diligence on this car before your write the check; otherwise, at $65K you will end up with a $40K fake with a used injection unit that may bring $7K.
The '64 bashing derives from a couple of things, imho. First, the SWC concept is more preferred and the '63 is the first year of the C2. The '64 is sandwiched between the '63/'65 and the advent of disc brakes, the first year of the 396, with the last year of a very limited number of FI cars in '65 seems to make the '64 irrelevant in the minds of some.
Personally, I think it is a distinction without much of a difference. The difference between the '63/'64 roadsters is a non starter for those who might argue otherwise. I would never pay up for a '63 vert vis a vis a '64. THE SWC is why you pay up.
By and large, I like the drum brakes on the '64 as opposed to the the discs on my '67. They work well on the street and they are very, very inexpensive to maintain.
Anecdotally, when these car were new, one of the rubs on the '64 was the poor design of the OEM hubcaps. Most people didn't like them then and they are not nearly as nice as the '63 hub, imho. Sometimes it is the cosmetic issues that turn people off. On a positive note, the FI engine for '64 was the most powerful motor that Chevrolet ever produced in 327 form.
The '64 bashing derives from a couple of things, imho. First, the SWC concept is more preferred and the '63 is the first year of the C2. The '64 is sandwiched between the '63/'65 and the advent of disc brakes, the first year of the 396, with the last year of a very limited number of FI cars in '65 seems to make the '64 irrelevant in the minds of some.
Personally, I think it is a distinction without much of a difference. The difference between the '63/'64 roadsters is a non starter for those who might argue otherwise. I would never pay up for a '63 vert vis a vis a '64. THE SWC is why you pay up.
By and large, I like the drum brakes on the '64 as opposed to the the discs on my '67. They work well on the street and they are very, very inexpensive to maintain.
Anecdotally, when these car were new, one of the rubs on the '64 was the poor design of the OEM hubcaps. Most people didn't like them then and they are not nearly as nice as the '63 hub, imho. Sometimes it is the cosmetic issues that turn people off. On a positive note, the FI engine for '64 was the most powerful motor that Chevrolet ever produced in 327 form.
Last edited by Dan Hampton; 01-09-2012 at 08:17 PM.
01-09-2012, 03:43 PM
#19
Pro
Thread Starter
First, a couple of things. You need to be wary of any Corvette that is selling as an original FI car. There is too much of a financial incentive to fake these cars, so be sure to perform due diligence on this car before your write the check; otherwise, at $65K you will end up with a $40K fake with a used injection unit that may bring $7K.
The '64 bashing derives from a couple of things, imho. First, the SWC concept is more preferred and the '63 is the first year of the C2. The '64 is sandwiched between the '63/'65 and the advent of disc brakes, the first year of the 396, with the last year of a very limited number of FI cars in '65 seems to make the '64 irrelevant in the minds of some.
Personally, I think it is a distinction without much of a difference. Th difference between the '63/'64 roadsters is a non starter for those who might argue otherwise. I would never pay up for a '63 vert vis a vis a '64. THE SWC is why you pay up.
By and large, I like the drum brakes on the '64 as opposed to the the discs on my '67. They work well on the street and they are very, very inexpensive to maintain.
Anecdotally, when these car were new, one of the rubs on the '64 was the poor design of the OEM hubcaps. Most people didn't like them then and they are not nearly as nice as the '63 hub, imho. Sometimes it is the cosmetic issues that turn people off. On a positive note, the FI engine for '64 was the most powerful motor that Chevrolet ever produced in 327 form.
The '64 bashing derives from a couple of things, imho. First, the SWC concept is more preferred and the '63 is the first year of the C2. The '64 is sandwiched between the '63/'65 and the advent of disc brakes, the first year of the 396, with the last year of a very limited number of FI cars in '65 seems to make the '64 irrelevant in the minds of some.
Personally, I think it is a distinction without much of a difference. Th difference between the '63/'64 roadsters is a non starter for those who might argue otherwise. I would never pay up for a '63 vert vis a vis a '64. THE SWC is why you pay up.
By and large, I like the drum brakes on the '64 as opposed to the the discs on my '67. They work well on the street and they are very, very inexpensive to maintain.
Anecdotally, when these car were new, one of the rubs on the '64 was the poor design of the OEM hubcaps. Most people didn't like them then and they are not nearly as nice as the '63 hub, imho. Sometimes it is the cosmetic issues that turn people off. On a positive note, the FI engine for '64 was the most powerful motor that Chevrolet ever produced in 327 form.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corvette-C...ht_1246wt_1062
01-09-2012, 03:58 PM
#20
Team Owner
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes
on
1,398 Posts
Otherwise, I agree with you on the '64 models. The disc brakes can be more liability than an assest. I like the interior of the '63-'64 better than the later cars.
I wouldn't be too hard on this seller. He's not advertising an authentic car and his is open to offers. But, I would agree that I wouldn't pay a premium for this car based on the pictures or the advertising verbage.
Last edited by MikeM; 01-09-2012 at 04:01 PM.
