1960 315hp Aluminum Head Not True
02-03-2012, 10:15 AM
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I am fortunate enough to own... high end luxury GT convertible.
In spite of this, large numbers of scantily-clad women do not throw themselves at me on a daily basis.
I demand car makers, advertising agencies, and women in general answer to me for the lies they have clearly perpetuated surrounding the allure of sports cars.
In spite of this, large numbers of scantily-clad women do not throw themselves at me on a daily basis.
I demand car makers, advertising agencies, and women in general answer to me for the lies they have clearly perpetuated surrounding the allure of sports cars.
02-03-2012, 10:24 AM
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Provette67,
I did reply to the guys comment. I said that the accident was never known but the engine failure and electrical fire were disclosed. In the mid 80's a guy came by and interviewed my father about the car.
It was only a few years ago that we happened to run into the original owner and he told many a wild tale of corvette experiences including the accident.
Why would I make this up? You make no sense and your attempt to disqualify me is what...silly? Dumb? Ridiculous? How about senseless. That seems appropriate?
Jason
I did reply to the guys comment. I said that the accident was never known but the engine failure and electrical fire were disclosed. In the mid 80's a guy came by and interviewed my father about the car.
It was only a few years ago that we happened to run into the original owner and he told many a wild tale of corvette experiences including the accident.
Why would I make this up? You make no sense and your attempt to disqualify me is what...silly? Dumb? Ridiculous? How about senseless. That seems appropriate?
Jason
02-03-2012, 10:25 AM
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I am fortunate enough to own several corvettes and even a high end luxury GT convertible.
In spite of this, large numbers of scantily-clad women do not throw themselves at me on a daily basis.
I demand car makers, advertising agencies, and women in general answer to me for the lies they have clearly perpetuated surrounding the allure of sports cars.
In spite of this, large numbers of scantily-clad women do not throw themselves at me on a daily basis.
I demand car makers, advertising agencies, and women in general answer to me for the lies they have clearly perpetuated surrounding the allure of sports cars.
02-03-2012, 10:29 AM
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and along those lines..... I say we sue all the shampoo manufacterers out there because watching their commercials are one thing but in person I've yet to meet a real woman that has massive orgasms just from washing their hair like they do in the commercials! I mean, isn't that total misrepresentation?
02-03-2012, 10:31 AM
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02-03-2012, 11:26 AM
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I am fortunate enough to own several corvettes and even a high end luxury GT convertible.
In spite of this, large numbers of scantily-clad women do not throw themselves at me on a daily basis.
I demand car makers, advertising agencies, and women in general answer to me for the lies they have clearly perpetuated surrounding the allure of sports cars.
In spite of this, large numbers of scantily-clad women do not throw themselves at me on a daily basis.
I demand car makers, advertising agencies, and women in general answer to me for the lies they have clearly perpetuated surrounding the allure of sports cars.
I USED to have this happen in both my '61 Corvette and the 308 Ferrari regularly, but that was when i was in my early '30's.
Now that i am 55, I can't recall it happening for some many years, I think it pretty much stopped somewhere past 40. I guess back then, i was sexy, now I am just a dirty old man in a fancy antique sports car.
Doug
02-03-2012, 11:39 AM
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I dunno,
I USED to have this happen in both my '61 Corvette and the 308 Ferrari regularly, but that was when i was in my early '30's.
Now that i am 55, I can't recall it happening for some many years, I think it pretty much stopped somewhere past 40. I guess back then, i was sexy, now I am just a dirty old man in a fancy antique sports car.
Doug
I USED to have this happen in both my '61 Corvette and the 308 Ferrari regularly, but that was when i was in my early '30's.
Now that i am 55, I can't recall it happening for some many years, I think it pretty much stopped somewhere past 40. I guess back then, i was sexy, now I am just a dirty old man in a fancy antique sports car.
Doug
02-03-2012, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
It is solely the responsibility of the buyer, to determine if a car is what it is represented to be, and no one else!
It is solely the responsibility of the buyer, to determine if a car is what it is represented to be, and no one else!
As a buyer of any vehicle regardless if its new or a collector car, you as the buyer had better do your research to insure you're buying what you think it is!
02-03-2012, 06:29 PM
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I get what most people are saying. Pick and choose your wars more carefully.this one is not worth the fight.
That is good advice and I appreciate it.
There are threads about engine stamps, the vendor that makes authentic style documents, vin/trim tags, date codes that don't match eBay postings, etc. There is a constant debate about misrepresentation. This an entire car not a part though.
There are a heck of a lot of views on this thread. I bet out of all the views someone knows someone that is interested in the car. Thanks to this thread, viewers are aware to let someone know to use extra diligence when researching the car for possible purchase. I'm satisfied with that.
Jason
That is good advice and I appreciate it.
There are threads about engine stamps, the vendor that makes authentic style documents, vin/trim tags, date codes that don't match eBay postings, etc. There is a constant debate about misrepresentation. This an entire car not a part though.
There are a heck of a lot of views on this thread. I bet out of all the views someone knows someone that is interested in the car. Thanks to this thread, viewers are aware to let someone know to use extra diligence when researching the car for possible purchase. I'm satisfied with that.
Jason
02-03-2012, 06:41 PM
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Read Don Quixote a couple times through and take a deep breath!
Jousting with windmills and slaying imaginary dragons is kind of a dry pump.
Jousting with windmills and slaying imaginary dragons is kind of a dry pump.
02-03-2012, 07:52 PM
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Don Quixote. Got it, thanks.
I'm ready to get back to some worthwhile technical posts. Done with this thread.
Thanks to everyone for their input.
Jason
I'm ready to get back to some worthwhile technical posts. Done with this thread.
Thanks to everyone for their input.
Jason
02-03-2012, 07:54 PM
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Jason,
I couldn't wait to get to the end of this thread to post my smart a$$ comment.
After I read your last post (70) I will refrain.
You have responded with class and shown that it is possible to come out of a disagreement with friends and not be so hard headed that you can't learn something.
Larry
I couldn't wait to get to the end of this thread to post my smart a$$ comment.
After I read your last post (70) I will refrain.
You have responded with class and shown that it is possible to come out of a disagreement with friends and not be so hard headed that you can't learn something.
Larry
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02-03-2012, 08:12 PM
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Jason,
I couldn't wait to get to the end of this thread to post my smart a$$ comment.
After I read your last post (70) I will refrain.
You have responded with class and shown that it is possible to come out of a disagreement with friends and not be so hard headed that you can't learn something.
Larry
I couldn't wait to get to the end of this thread to post my smart a$$ comment.
After I read your last post (70) I will refrain.
You have responded with class and shown that it is possible to come out of a disagreement with friends and not be so hard headed that you can't learn something.
Larry
02-03-2012, 09:00 PM
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02-03-2012, 09:09 PM
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I think those interested in history need to make sure the facts are correctly represented.
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04-23-2016, 04:21 AM
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Could a person suggest that the "research/inquiries" that you have done apparently SINCE the purchase should have been done PRIOR to the purchase? The simple truth is that you could have assembled a snowball in a Midwestern state in February, thrown it in the air, asked 100 people about the car, and before the snowball melted/hit the ground would have been referred to NCRS articles that said such car did not exist. Can we assume that you are the one who told the purchaser that this car "was a steal"?
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04-23-2016, 06:42 AM
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Ultimately it comes down to the buyer. The buyer is the one that is responsible.
Fake histories are not uncommon in this business. I've run across cars that I used to own where someone created a new history of the car. The new history doubled the value. Those cars are still out there.
It's called provenance. Most high end buyers will not purchase a car unless there is a complete (and documented) history back to day one. The perennial question it "Did I actually get what I paid for?" Collectors are very very careful.
When you strip away all the glitter an auction is basically a used car lot where the owner of the used car lot doesn't have to carry an inventory. When you buy a used car and the car lot explicitly states that there is no warranty who is a fault when the car goes bad?
It's certainly not Noland Adams and the NCRS. Look in the mirror.
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Fake histories are not uncommon in this business. I've run across cars that I used to own where someone created a new history of the car. The new history doubled the value. Those cars are still out there.
It's called provenance. Most high end buyers will not purchase a car unless there is a complete (and documented) history back to day one. The perennial question it "Did I actually get what I paid for?" Collectors are very very careful.
When you strip away all the glitter an auction is basically a used car lot where the owner of the used car lot doesn't have to carry an inventory. When you buy a used car and the car lot explicitly states that there is no warranty who is a fault when the car goes bad?
It's certainly not Noland Adams and the NCRS. Look in the mirror.
Richard Newton
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11-21-2023, 11:12 AM
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Regarding lot S194 that rolled across the Mecum Kissimmeeblock this past Saturday evening.
I have reached out to the first and second owners as well as Mecum, president of NCRS, Proteam, the restorer of the vehicle and this forum.
Somebody from NCRS needs to contact me right away so we can discuss methods and procedures of verification.
Also, Noland Adams who has been contacted on more than 1 occasion to discuss how he came to the false conclusion that the car had aluminum heads needs to contact me. So far most everyone has decided to blow me off.
This is not fair to people purchasing this car or to the collector car industry as a whole. Please contact me.
Jason
As the future generation of supporters of the collector car industry, I
I have reached out to the first and second owners as well as Mecum, president of NCRS, Proteam, the restorer of the vehicle and this forum.
Somebody from NCRS needs to contact me right away so we can discuss methods and procedures of verification.
Also, Noland Adams who has been contacted on more than 1 occasion to discuss how he came to the false conclusion that the car had aluminum heads needs to contact me. So far most everyone has decided to blow me off.
This is not fair to people purchasing this car or to the collector car industry as a whole. Please contact me.
Jason
As the future generation of supporters of the collector car industry, I
11-21-2023, 11:44 AM
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I just ran across this thread I see it is very old just thought I would add my two cents there were several aluminum head cars produced although they were not for retail sale they were for test purposes obviously there are interviews with Zora talking about them GM Heritage Center has a display talking about several Corvettes being tested I do know of at least one of these cars that were sold from the storage a lot and got into public hands