Ohio Highway Patrol serves warrant to Mershon’s World of Cars
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There's no way they are going to start popping anyone whose motor doesn't match the vin.
They were making an example out of the dealer. They sent a lot of people because they wanted to make a public impression and get news coverage towards a dealer that probably deserves it ie:lots of vin plates etc.. with improper documentation numerous attorney general complaints and lawsuits etc...
They are trying to send a message to the classic car dealers. STOP FU%%ING WITH SERIAL NUMBERS.It's a rampant problem and if guilty, I hope they bust the hell out of them!
These guys give the honest car dealers a bad name. And there are many honest ones out there.
They were making an example out of the dealer. They sent a lot of people because they wanted to make a public impression and get news coverage towards a dealer that probably deserves it ie:lots of vin plates etc.. with improper documentation numerous attorney general complaints and lawsuits etc...
They are trying to send a message to the classic car dealers. STOP FU%%ING WITH SERIAL NUMBERS.It's a rampant problem and if guilty, I hope they bust the hell out of them!
These guys give the honest car dealers a bad name. And there are many honest ones out there.
Ps you sir don't have a clue I know of a guy in Connecticut that I sold a Corvette to & hecouldn't get his 67 titled & they wanted to take the Corvette because the motor didn,t match the frame. I took the car back & gave him his money back.
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Hi how do you know if your vin & title are real.He has been in business for 40years. how many fake trim tags/SN did he have to take off to sell legit Corvettes. You people don't have a clue what went on years ago. How many Cars have you bought. I have bought 100's & I will tell you tons of Corvettes were stoled & retaged in the day.
Ps you sir don't have a clue I know of a guy in Connecticut that I sold a Corvette to & hecouldn't get his 67 titled & they wanted to take the Corvette because the motor didn,t match the frame. I took the car back & gave him his money back.
Ps you sir don't have a clue I know of a guy in Connecticut that I sold a Corvette to & hecouldn't get his 67 titled & they wanted to take the Corvette because the motor didn,t match the frame. I took the car back & gave him his money back.
SO!I am a Texas dealer and will having nothing to do with any kind of tampering. Mershons had VIN tags laying around. If they had the proper documents? The cops wouldn't have confiscated them.
I have no need to qualify myself to you.
Do you know the meaning of "IF GUILTY"? If not? They having nothing to worry about. The law didn't show up at their door for the he!! of it.
When I said " these guys" I meant that in the general term of classic dealers who tamper with the numbers.
Ps sir! Go have another beer!
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Hi. How do you know if your vin & title are real? He has been in business for 40 years. How many fake trim tags/SNs did he have to take off to sell legit Corvettes? You people don't have a clue what went on years ago. How many cars have you bought? I have bought 100s, and I will tell you tons of Corvettes were stoled & retaged in the day.
P.S. You sir, don't have a clue. I know of a guy in Connecticut that I sold a Corvette to. He couldn't get his 67 titled. They wanted to take the Corvette because the motor didn't match the frame. I took the car back and gave him his money back.
You're welcome, but it still makes no sense.
P.S. You sir, don't have a clue. I know of a guy in Connecticut that I sold a Corvette to. He couldn't get his 67 titled. They wanted to take the Corvette because the motor didn't match the frame. I took the car back and gave him his money back.
You're welcome, but it still makes no sense.
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One thing that has not been fully addressed, and which really burns me, is how a DMV or other agency can arbitrarily decide to remove the VIN and substitute a state one. I'm not talking about a case of proven actual fraud, just the case where say the frame rotted and a different one was legally purchased and installed.
They are taking a piece of property which is legally yours - the VIN tag. They are causing you monetary harm by decreasing the value of your car. I would expect you have the makings of a lawsuit.
To make up a similar scenario, let's say you had an original born-with fuelie motor in the proper car, or maybe a 427/435 in a '67, everything factory original. You take it in for the smog check and for whatever reason it fails. Suppose - and again I'm just playing "what if" - suppose they then removed and seized the original motor and replaced it with a state-approved replacement motor. Imagine the value hit you'd take.
I'm all in favor of heavy consequences for those who deliberately swap things around for deceptive purposes. But I hear of far too many cases where a state arbitrarily confiscates a VIN tag and puts their own on for no proper reason.
They are taking a piece of property which is legally yours - the VIN tag. They are causing you monetary harm by decreasing the value of your car. I would expect you have the makings of a lawsuit.
To make up a similar scenario, let's say you had an original born-with fuelie motor in the proper car, or maybe a 427/435 in a '67, everything factory original. You take it in for the smog check and for whatever reason it fails. Suppose - and again I'm just playing "what if" - suppose they then removed and seized the original motor and replaced it with a state-approved replacement motor. Imagine the value hit you'd take.
I'm all in favor of heavy consequences for those who deliberately swap things around for deceptive purposes. But I hear of far too many cases where a state arbitrarily confiscates a VIN tag and puts their own on for no proper reason.
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SO!I am a Texas dealer and will having nothing to do with any kind of tampering. Mershons had VIN tags laying around. If they had the proper documents? The cops wouldn't have confiscated them.
I have no need to qualify myself to you.
Do you know the meaning of "IF GUILTY"? If not? They having nothing to worry about. The law didn't show up at their door for the he!! of it.
When I said " these guys" I meant that in the general term of classic dealers who tamper with the numbers.
Ps sir! Go have another beer!
I have no need to qualify myself to you.
Do you know the meaning of "IF GUILTY"? If not? They having nothing to worry about. The law didn't show up at their door for the he!! of it.
When I said " these guys" I meant that in the general term of classic dealers who tamper with the numbers.
Ps sir! Go have another beer!
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Is that stamp actually on the rear axle housing or on the frame?
Isn't there also another location actually on the frame itself located on the top side of the frame just before the driver's side kick-up at the rear wheel well?
Isn't there also another location actually on the frame itself located on the top side of the frame just before the driver's side kick-up at the rear wheel well?
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What's a bunch of trim tags doing laying about in the workplace?
Mine was removed by the bodyshop when painted never saw it again.
I know he had a box of them laying around.
Thought about getting a repop made but may look suspicious to a cop if ever checked out. Scary.
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There are no legal issues in removing trim tags. VINs a different story.
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Being in business for 30+ years is no alibi for this. Maybe they've been into it all that time, and just been caught??? Time will tell. But, what a major scandal for the classic car industry! Others may follow.
I've told you all before about my 66 being cloned in Montreal, and sold in the States at a northern NewYork auction, and again, a different version, same numbers, in Windsor Ontario.
I've told you all before about my 66 being cloned in Montreal, and sold in the States at a northern NewYork auction, and again, a different version, same numbers, in Windsor Ontario.
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