Lacquer paint?
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Lacquer paint?
i have a '65 roadster with a '70s custom paint job that should be fun to show like it was back then. it looks like it was done in acrylic lacquer with a thin clear coat. i'm wondering if anyone would recommend a clear coat respray to cover up a bunch of surface flaws that the car got from 30 years of haphazard storage. and, what kind of surface prep is needed (without destroying the design). thanks for any suggestions!
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Welcome! What a neat car, very neat indeed. I like that it isn't flared but still has custom paint.
My uncle advice would be if you clear over lacquer it will probably destroy the finish sooner than leaving it be. Paint does degrade. True. But lacquer in particular "they" say never stabilizes, or continually draws out solvent - eventually checking and cracking like the paint on my 64 I finally had to strip last year.
If you clear over the lacquer it might hold up well for several years, but it might react badly, one surface moving and one staying still. I suspect storage and usage will affect that.
If it were mine I would be inclined to put some good wax- and very little polish if any- and keep it waxed and "let it be what it is."
Tell us more about this gem!!!
Benton
My uncle advice would be if you clear over lacquer it will probably destroy the finish sooner than leaving it be. Paint does degrade. True. But lacquer in particular "they" say never stabilizes, or continually draws out solvent - eventually checking and cracking like the paint on my 64 I finally had to strip last year.
If you clear over the lacquer it might hold up well for several years, but it might react badly, one surface moving and one staying still. I suspect storage and usage will affect that.
If it were mine I would be inclined to put some good wax- and very little polish if any- and keep it waxed and "let it be what it is."
Tell us more about this gem!!!
Benton
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Holy acid trip, Batman!
That is a cool, funky, chunk of 60s/70s nostalgia right there!
Don't clear over the lacquer for the reasons that Benton stated above.
Also, post some more pics when you get a chance. Thanks for sharing!
That is a cool, funky, chunk of 60s/70s nostalgia right there!
Don't clear over the lacquer for the reasons that Benton stated above.
Also, post some more pics when you get a chance. Thanks for sharing!
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from where I'm sitting I see no flaws at all. I would wax it, and love it, just as is.
You're exactly right. People will walk right by the trailer queen restos to drool over your time capsule. Right on!
You're exactly right. People will walk right by the trailer queen restos to drool over your time capsule. Right on!
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You shouldn't have any issues painting the urethane over the lacquer. It's the other way around that would give you big problems.
But Benson gives you some good advice. A good coat of wax and enjoy as it is. Nostalgic 70s paint job. How many are still out there? It's cool the way it is.
Bob
But Benson gives you some good advice. A good coat of wax and enjoy as it is. Nostalgic 70s paint job. How many are still out there? It's cool the way it is.
Bob
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I would find a old time body shop with painters who have been painting for decades and ask them
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I would find a old time body shop with painters who have been painting for decades and ask them
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I think I would PM forum member DUB or look for him on the Paint and Body forum and ask his advise.
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Welcome! What a neat car, very neat indeed. I like that it isn't flared but still has custom paint.
My uncle advice would be if you clear over lacquer it will probably destroy the finish sooner than leaving it be. Paint does degrade. True. But lacquer in particular "they" say never stabilizes, or continually draws out solvent - eventually checking and cracking like the paint on my 64 I finally had to strip last year.
If you clear over the lacquer it might hold up well for several years, but it might react badly, one surface moving and one staying still. I suspect storage and usage will affect that.
If it were mine I would be inclined to put some good wax- and very little polish if any- and keep it waxed and "let it be what it is."
Tell us more about this gem!!!
Benton
My uncle advice would be if you clear over lacquer it will probably destroy the finish sooner than leaving it be. Paint does degrade. True. But lacquer in particular "they" say never stabilizes, or continually draws out solvent - eventually checking and cracking like the paint on my 64 I finally had to strip last year.
If you clear over the lacquer it might hold up well for several years, but it might react badly, one surface moving and one staying still. I suspect storage and usage will affect that.
If it were mine I would be inclined to put some good wax- and very little polish if any- and keep it waxed and "let it be what it is."
Tell us more about this gem!!!
Benton
i found the car at Carlisle 2014, it had come out of very long storage and made safe for the road, cleaned up, but little else. was a glenwood green 365hp but now a 350 block, orig heads (hyd lifters now), manifolds, etc. edelbrock carb. M21 & 3.70 posi, 2 tops, orig ragtop looks like it was never used. some frame rust, am replacing deteriorated trailing arms & having the diff blueprinted by Gary Ramadei.
wish i knew more about the history of the paint, people either love it or hate it!
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Looks awesome as it is...Maybe a set of Cragar SS...???
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It's Glen Green, and the ones that hate it would still hate it without the psychedelic treatment. It's a one of a kind as it is, and that is special. Enjoy!
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Love it or hate it (wouldn't put it on my car but, I like it on yours!) one still has to at least have some appreciation for the amount of time, imagination and effort that went into that paint work.
Personally, I may not like the particular "look" of some custom vehicles be they cars, bikes, or whatever however, I can and do recognize and appreciate the artistry and craftsmanship involved.
It will most definitely always be a "one off" car!
Gary
Personally, I may not like the particular "look" of some custom vehicles be they cars, bikes, or whatever however, I can and do recognize and appreciate the artistry and craftsmanship involved.
It will most definitely always be a "one off" car!
Gary
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There is no way in hell that I would topcoat that with urethane clearcoat.
However, scuffing it and shooting some clear lacquer would be a very viable option. Clearly, form the graphics, the car is already shot with clear over the color, so wet sanding the existing clear and shooting a fresh coat of lacquer would be kind of a no-brainer.
Lacquer clear will melt the original clear and they will become one, unlike the urethane clear which will just sit on top of the old finish, and will likely start to delaminate in the future.
If the existing finish is not all cracked, then a fresh coat of clear lacquer could bring this finish back to a like new appearance.
Regards, John McGraw
However, scuffing it and shooting some clear lacquer would be a very viable option. Clearly, form the graphics, the car is already shot with clear over the color, so wet sanding the existing clear and shooting a fresh coat of lacquer would be kind of a no-brainer.
Lacquer clear will melt the original clear and they will become one, unlike the urethane clear which will just sit on top of the old finish, and will likely start to delaminate in the future.
If the existing finish is not all cracked, then a fresh coat of clear lacquer could bring this finish back to a like new appearance.
Regards, John McGraw
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