Help on 427 motor
#21
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The other 427's are race motor they take high octane fuel anyway.
Obviously no one offered him$20k. I'm just going to make an offer and see if he takes it. But it definetly is the original motor. The numbers match the VIN as does the tranny suffix code.
Obviously no one offered him$20k. I'm just going to make an offer and see if he takes it. But it definetly is the original motor. The numbers match the VIN as does the tranny suffix code.
#22
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I looked on the title for a name and found the original owner still living locally. He told me with his wife that they planned to redo the car. He had been buying parts for It slowly through the years but had to sell it about a year before I got it. I have all the Gm delco parts still in boxes with the car. The old man told me he sold the car with the original motor and tranny. A few trades later and it's in my hands with no motor/tranny. The guy I bought the car from told me motor/tranny were stolen out of the car decades ago while it was at an autoshop.
#23
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Recap
Bought the motor and drivetrain.
It was ready to go with all the original internals, had everything from the NOS parts with radiator to tailpipes and Chrome shielding. The guy knew what he had.
Now that my guy has put the motor back together, its getting dropped into the car in two weeks.
It was ready to go with all the original internals, had everything from the NOS parts with radiator to tailpipes and Chrome shielding. The guy knew what he had.
Now that my guy has put the motor back together, its getting dropped into the car in two weeks.
#24
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Thanks for the recap...
He had you man... all there is to it. But still, I am guessing that you got the whole thing back together for less than the price of a legit BB 66... riiighhhht?
How bout pictures of the car?
CONGRATS!!!
He had you man... all there is to it. But still, I am guessing that you got the whole thing back together for less than the price of a legit BB 66... riiighhhht?
How bout pictures of the car?
CONGRATS!!!
#25
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I don't think you will ever regret having stepped up to the BB engine/tranny purchase. Congrats also!
#26
Team Owner
I will add that this whole "I got your engine" thing is questionable IMO, if true this guy is playing FF games to get more money for his junk.
#27
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Good to hear the car will be on the road within weeks. Be sure to post a pic or two.
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That's the oddest thing - taking a matching numbers car apart so you can extort more money when they are separated. The car would've brought more with the original drivetrain, so how much could they have netted after all that effort?
Regardless 427Vett66, you got what you were after.
Regardless 427Vett66, you got what you were after.
#30
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Car is complete
Sorry for the lack of updates, car has been complete for about year and a half (they really are never "done"). Made it all original except for black int instead of the original factory green and added gm side pipes. Have photos of the motor shop/ race guy that had the motor and drivetrain for $21k I'll upload later. ** edit** He ORIGINALLY kept the motor as a replacement for his blk/blk 427 biscayne.
The drivetrain, motor, and gingerbread extras he had are all original and back on the car.
Stans Cocoa Corvette off 520 and US1.
The drivetrain, motor, and gingerbread extras he had are all original and back on the car.
Stans Cocoa Corvette off 520 and US1.
Last edited by 427vette66; 02-18-2019 at 07:01 PM. Reason: Misinformed.
#31
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If I understand right you didn't buy the original motor back? Great looking car - like Mossport Green.
#32
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I thought he DID buy the original motor and trans back.
We all know of one person that paid $50K for the original big block for his 1967 Corvette. But since it was an original L88 car, I think that was worth the investment.
We all know of one person that paid $50K for the original big block for his 1967 Corvette. But since it was an original L88 car, I think that was worth the investment.
#33
Race Director
Yeah - reading back over everything I guess so. I may have gotten confused over some of the changing details on the motor in the recent series of pictures.
#35
Drifting
this is right on the money, I would tell him to pound sand and walk away, don't know what you paid for the car, but it was not cheap, I would find a 427, or 454, dress it to look like a period correct engine and enjoy the car, you will be thousands ahead and not feel like you were taken for a long ride.
Sounds like a scam to me.
So you purchased a 66 BB without the motor/tranny that the previous owner removed and stuck in a barn. And then someone puts you in touch with him, telling him you have the 66, so you go and try to buy it from him, but he's basically holding your feet to the fire.
And there are 3 other 427's motor/tranny combos sitting there in the barn as well? Something tells me there are 3 other mid-year BB's out there local waiting for someone to tell the owners that the 427's are in the barn and somehow the owner of the 427's will know this.
So you purchased a 66 BB without the motor/tranny that the previous owner removed and stuck in a barn. And then someone puts you in touch with him, telling him you have the 66, so you go and try to buy it from him, but he's basically holding your feet to the fire.
And there are 3 other 427's motor/tranny combos sitting there in the barn as well? Something tells me there are 3 other mid-year BB's out there local waiting for someone to tell the owners that the 427's are in the barn and somehow the owner of the 427's will know this.
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this is right on the money, I would tell him to pound sand and walk away, don't know what you paid for the car, but it was not cheap, I would find a 427, or 454, dress it to look like a period correct engine and enjoy the car, you will be thousands ahead and not feel like you were taken for a long ride.
Go back and read post #23: "Bought the motor and drivetrain."
#37
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I gotta stop responding to posts without going through the whole series of responses, I responded while being pissed for holding the op ransom, never looked at the year it was originally written.
#38
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Here's how it goes. Bought the body and rolling chassis with its title from '74 and tons of NOS parts from the Mayor of Rockledge, FL Tom Price, he wanted the body and title to make a restro-mod. But after seeing how clean the frame and originality, he though he could flip it quick and restore-mod a C1 (which i believe was a '62 thats didn't meet reserve at 190k).
Me, wanting to keep the '74 title as history to the car, went to the florida DMV and found that I had to turn that title in to reissue me one in my name to take ownership and registration. The only way to keep the original paper '74 title, was to get power of attorney of the name that is on the title. The lady behind the counter at the DMV said the address still looked active. So after driving only 10 mins from where I had bought the car, I meet the original owner still alive and living there and got his signature for power of attorney for the title and the history of the car. This is when I **** my self when he said it was a big block car and only sold the car about year and a half ago with all its parts including......the motor and drivetrain ))))) So I called the mayor I bought the car from and figured out who he bought the car from, he didn't know it was a BBC or PW.
So history and '74 title from original owner, car and NOS parts from 3rd owner.
Now comes the second owner with the $21k price tag and original motor. A Mr. Bobby Meadows in cocoa, racer and owner of Bobby's speed shop. He wasn't a vette guy and only wanted the motor for his '66 427 Biscayne which had blow decades before. He had the motor, tranny, driveshaft, exhaust manifold down to the pipes and shifter linkage still attached to the tranny. I did the right thing and put the car back together correctly. LOL
Me, wanting to keep the '74 title as history to the car, went to the florida DMV and found that I had to turn that title in to reissue me one in my name to take ownership and registration. The only way to keep the original paper '74 title, was to get power of attorney of the name that is on the title. The lady behind the counter at the DMV said the address still looked active. So after driving only 10 mins from where I had bought the car, I meet the original owner still alive and living there and got his signature for power of attorney for the title and the history of the car. This is when I **** my self when he said it was a big block car and only sold the car about year and a half ago with all its parts including......the motor and drivetrain ))))) So I called the mayor I bought the car from and figured out who he bought the car from, he didn't know it was a BBC or PW.
So history and '74 title from original owner, car and NOS parts from 3rd owner.
Now comes the second owner with the $21k price tag and original motor. A Mr. Bobby Meadows in cocoa, racer and owner of Bobby's speed shop. He wasn't a vette guy and only wanted the motor for his '66 427 Biscayne which had blow decades before. He had the motor, tranny, driveshaft, exhaust manifold down to the pipes and shifter linkage still attached to the tranny. I did the right thing and put the car back together correctly. LOL
#39
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Day 1 - The Unload.
Day 1 - Clean-up
think the gear ratio is 3.63, AU something.
Day 3 to Day 856 - The organization
NOS
Corvette America - 90's
Clock works
The sign over from the original motor.
Before seal and epoxy.
The motor seeing it day one.
matching VIN, taken after rebuild.
#40
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427 '66 Corvette motor
GM emblems
GM emblems
GM emblems
GM emblems
Bobby's speed Shop - Cocoa, FL 2014
Bobby's speed Shop - Cocoa, FL 2014
The 66 427 Biscayne that almost swallowed my engine. never to be found again.
Bobby's speed Shop - Cocoa, FL 2014
Bobby's speed Shop - Cocoa, FL 2014
The 427 motor with pre rebuilt
Bobby's speed Shop - Cocoa, FL 2014