tuxnharley

Why was Stewart's car higher up on the track than the car before him? Did Ward walk down into Stewart's path as you assert, or did Stewart drive higher up the track as the frame by frame analysis shows.....?

66jack

Look at the 2nd frame...if he got hit at that point, wouldn't it cause the cars front end to turn right and allow it to drift up track...?
But look at the 3rd frame and where Ward would be standing...he came down into the path and from what i can tell the front tire, 'might' have got him...

66jack

Look at the line through his helmet...then its in his armpit...depending on the bank of track he could be 3 feet further down into the path...

tuxnharley

I see the green line going through his helmet in the fifth frame of the blue car sequence as that car has gone by him, and then in that same location in the first two frames of the Stewart car sequence. It looks to me like Ward was in the same track position after the blue car went by him and as Stewart approached. I do not see him having moved further down the track towards Stewart, I see Stewart further up the track than the blue car.

Thus - why did the blue car not hit Ward, but Stewart did.........?

ifitgoesfast

I don't think the investigators would remove the tire as the entire car is an intact piece of evidence. That would approach spoliation of evidence.

wikipedia: "The spoliation of evidence is the intentional or negligent withholding, hiding, altering, or destroying of evidence relevant to a legal proceeding"

That said, just an FYI, these sprint cars cannot be put on the haulers (see them in background) without first changing out the much wider right rear tire as it makes the car want to go left. It's possible that they were preparing the load Stewart's car on the hauler and not trying to tamper with evidence. I can be objective about this. Can you?

Rear right tire

https://mobile.twitter.com/adamlongo...35249567199232

tuxnharley

Fair enough, but why would they be trying to load it on a trailer and take it away when they knew it had just run over another driver?

ifitgoesfast

He didn't get hit in the second frame I presented in the composition. Look at the last three frames where he was still standing when hit by the right rear tire, then the tire captured him and he was lowered down and under the car.

ifitgoesfast

I can't tell you that because I don't know their intentions. We can only review the facts from video and pictures as they are. The investigators might interview everyone and the authorities can determine what's next.

tuxnharley

True, but at the very least it shows absolutely callous disregard and insensitivity towards what had just happened.........

"yeah we ran over the guy but let's just load up and get outta here".....

ifitgoesfast

OK, looks like it's confirmed. Someone removed the right rear tire which hit Ward and replaced it with a left rear tire.

Sheriffs on scene, look at the right rear tire. That's not the one in the race.

https://mobile.twitter.com/adamlongo...35249567199232

Here's the actual right rear tire used in racing (much wider tire, notice wheel)

Here's the left rear tire/wheel on the correct left side

mudbone64

From the supplied audio and video can anyone say with any level of certainty that they can hear the engine rev and see the car react to the engine revving simultaneously?

65GGvert

I sure wish I could see whatever you guys are seeing. I don't see anything either way in those frames except two cars going by. Must be my computer isn't as good or the screen isn't as large. or something.

MrPandy

When you want to see something badly enough, you often can.

ifitgoesfast

If you have an Apple MAC computer: hold down the key COMMAND and press + or - to zoom in / out.

On a PC computer, hold down Windows logo key and press +

This will let you zoom into/out of web pages

SonnyAK

Everyone sees what they want to in this...good/bad, pro/con...It's no different than anything else in their daily lives! The reality is, if the kid hadn't jumped out and ran down to aggressively to confront Stewart, then he'd still be alive...The race would've been over soon and he could have accomplished that later, face to face, if he truly had to...

It's truly sad he's dead, but even though he was only 20 years old, he'd been racing since age 4...It's not like he was new to this and didn't know better...

I don't know about you, but I'm never going to run head into a car coming anywhere near me at 60 mph if I can possibly avoid it...

ifitgoesfast

You mean like the fantasy that cops will remove a tire from an intact car that killed someone because it was the tire that did it, not the whole car? That kind of selective vision?

(see your quotation above on this page)

65GGvert

I did that, all I see is a larger version of a car. I don't know where anyone is seeing all that about rear tire and going under and turning wheel one way or another. I guess that's why they didn't ask me to examine the Zapruder tape.

ifitgoesfast

They were not going 60 mph, it was under a yellow, caution

ifitgoesfast

Ah, the old trusty ad hominem. Noted.

62Jeff

I think people don't know the difference between a winged sprint car, and the NASCAR series sponsored by Sprint communications.