Motor Wheel Spyder - Sour Grapes
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Motor Wheel Spyder - Sour Grapes
I missed getting some motor wheel spyders cause the seller wouldn't ship and I couldn't arrange for someone to get em for me...
So I need some help in the sour grapes department so I don't feel too bad about not getting them.
My goal is/was to find some vintage (67-72ish) wheels for my 67 Convertible to complete a late 60s/Early 70s era look for the restoration of my car. I can't afford the big name brands of the era (Halibrand, AR Torque Thrust Ds etc) so I am trying to find some more reasonably priced 15x6s with a disc brake friendly back spacing.
Here are the motor wheel spyders...
Has anyone seen these on a C2? The seller claimed they were 15x6 Chevy pattern with a 3.5" back spacing.
This comes on the heels of another missed opportunity
A guy had some Hollywood Wheels that were the right size... I sent my money off and he got all squirrely... eventually got my money back, but really wanted the wheels.
I am thinking about starting another thread for "unusual" C2 vintage aftermarket wheels. The size is real tough though... as it doesn't seem like many wheels were made in 65-67 corvette size as most cars of the era didn't have 4 wheel disc brakes and need the clearance. In 68 the Vette wheels get wider, negating the need for a 15x6... ughhh....
So I need some help in the sour grapes department so I don't feel too bad about not getting them.
My goal is/was to find some vintage (67-72ish) wheels for my 67 Convertible to complete a late 60s/Early 70s era look for the restoration of my car. I can't afford the big name brands of the era (Halibrand, AR Torque Thrust Ds etc) so I am trying to find some more reasonably priced 15x6s with a disc brake friendly back spacing.
Here are the motor wheel spyders...
Has anyone seen these on a C2? The seller claimed they were 15x6 Chevy pattern with a 3.5" back spacing.
This comes on the heels of another missed opportunity
A guy had some Hollywood Wheels that were the right size... I sent my money off and he got all squirrely... eventually got my money back, but really wanted the wheels.
I am thinking about starting another thread for "unusual" C2 vintage aftermarket wheels. The size is real tough though... as it doesn't seem like many wheels were made in 65-67 corvette size as most cars of the era didn't have 4 wheel disc brakes and need the clearance. In 68 the Vette wheels get wider, negating the need for a 15x6... ughhh....
Last edited by Revfan; 12-11-2014 at 06:27 AM.
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I don't know what to say, but I will watch with interest! Subscribed!
PS Miss muffett is still selling wheels 45 years later- nice!
PS Miss muffett is still selling wheels 45 years later- nice!
Last edited by ChattanoogaJSB; 12-11-2014 at 08:43 AM.
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I don't care how good Miss Muff (errr...Muffet) looks. Those first wheels are gross IMO. The second selection are much nicer...
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While beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, you might do well to listen to what Frankie said.
There is surely a reason why Cragar S/S and American Torque Thrust grey were made back then and still made today, and conversely why Miss Muffets spiders went down the drain.
By the time you buy and re-finish something like those spyders, you could have had the others new, and nearly indistinguishable from back in the day with period correct tires ready to go!
Good Luck with your search and selection.
Marty
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Truth is, I almost never care for aftermarket rims of any vintage. Cragar SS rims look redneck to me. I like what you already have, Greg- but it's your car and it isn't permanent. I'm the weirdo who actually likes stock hubcaps over aluminum. I also have been known to admire my black rims with NO wheel covers, so go figure.
I do like the 17" repro rally wheels from wheel vin toques and possibly others.
I do like the 17" repro rally wheels from wheel vin toques and possibly others.
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Revfan,
Whatever floats your boat, but I'm with Frankie on this. Those period hot rod looking vintage AR Torque Thrust "D"s have been on my mind for a few years...ever since I let go of a set back then. Found these just last month. I'm thinking a set of these mounted with Diamondback redline radials will be the ticket for my '5:
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Whatever floats your boat, but I'm with Frankie on this. Those period hot rod looking vintage AR Torque Thrust "D"s have been on my mind for a few years...ever since I let go of a set back then. Found these just last month. I'm thinking a set of these mounted with Diamondback redline radials will be the ticket for my '5:
Jim
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Rev, if it helps your sour grapes quotient, those Spyders are hideous. You didnt miss out on anything.
There's plenty of period-correct wheel options out there.
There's plenty of period-correct wheel options out there.
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Revfan,
Whatever floats your boat, but I'm with Frankie on this. Those period hot rod looking vintage AR Torque Thrust "D"s have been on my mind for a few years...ever since I let go of a set back then. Found these just last month. I'm thinking a set of these mounted with Diamondback redline radials will be the ticket for my '5:
Jim
In God We Trust!
Whatever floats your boat, but I'm with Frankie on this. Those period hot rod looking vintage AR Torque Thrust "D"s have been on my mind for a few years...ever since I let go of a set back then. Found these just last month. I'm thinking a set of these mounted with Diamondback redline radials will be the ticket for my '5:
Jim
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Melting Slicks
In the early sixties, if you had the bucks, you had Radar wheels.
The only other choice was really the Halibrands, but they were pretty pricey.
If you did not have the bucks, it was Red painted steel wheels, or 57 Plymouth hubcaps, or (Oldsmobile?) Spinners, either usually found on a street without lights by one of your entrepreneurial "associates", and sold for pennies on the dollar.
By the mid sixties it was Keystones, Torque Thrusts, Cragar S/S or Cragar GT's. During that time if you had a hot car and some money, you were running those wheels.
The Cragar S/S didn't become trashy until the ones bought in the mid sixties began showing up on cars that looked like they just escaped from the junkyard, with 10 year old rusty Cragars on them.
If you couldn't afford those you had chrome, wheels, reversed if they would fit.
The next step down was black painted steel wheels, with or without baby moon hubcaps. The baby moons would also show up with the chrome reverse wheels on some cars.
Slotted cheap steel wheels that were chromed also became the rage, but All Corvettes and Chevys that couldn't afford better began wearing the Corvette slotted wheels with trim rings and caps either the 67 version or the newer C-3 ones.
Least ways that is how it was in the early to mid 60's in the Philadelphia area.
I cannot recall seeing a real set of Spyders ever on anything, but EVERYONE knew of the ad.
By the 70's MOPAR was using a spyder like design on their Cuda's and Challengers.
Torque Thrusts and Redlines, or Blueline Speedways would have been the rage.
Good luck with your choice!
Marty
The only other choice was really the Halibrands, but they were pretty pricey.
If you did not have the bucks, it was Red painted steel wheels, or 57 Plymouth hubcaps, or (Oldsmobile?) Spinners, either usually found on a street without lights by one of your entrepreneurial "associates", and sold for pennies on the dollar.
By the mid sixties it was Keystones, Torque Thrusts, Cragar S/S or Cragar GT's. During that time if you had a hot car and some money, you were running those wheels.
The Cragar S/S didn't become trashy until the ones bought in the mid sixties began showing up on cars that looked like they just escaped from the junkyard, with 10 year old rusty Cragars on them.
If you couldn't afford those you had chrome, wheels, reversed if they would fit.
The next step down was black painted steel wheels, with or without baby moon hubcaps. The baby moons would also show up with the chrome reverse wheels on some cars.
Slotted cheap steel wheels that were chromed also became the rage, but All Corvettes and Chevys that couldn't afford better began wearing the Corvette slotted wheels with trim rings and caps either the 67 version or the newer C-3 ones.
Least ways that is how it was in the early to mid 60's in the Philadelphia area.
I cannot recall seeing a real set of Spyders ever on anything, but EVERYONE knew of the ad.
By the 70's MOPAR was using a spyder like design on their Cuda's and Challengers.
Torque Thrusts and Redlines, or Blueline Speedways would have been the rage.
Good luck with your choice!
Marty
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Now that is a trip down memory lane !! "Slotted disc' wheels ... were the 'bomb' for a while...
I ran them on my fastback Mustang well into the '80s - they'd look like crap on a C1/C2 I'm thinking.
I ran baby moons for a few years on my 63 Comet that my dear brother commandeered off somebody's car in the Holiday Inn parking lot next to our neighborhood one night.
I didn't know that for years.
I ran them on my fastback Mustang well into the '80s - they'd look like crap on a C1/C2 I'm thinking.
I ran baby moons for a few years on my 63 Comet that my dear brother commandeered off somebody's car in the Holiday Inn parking lot next to our neighborhood one night.
I didn't know that for years.
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 12-11-2014 at 04:38 PM.
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Thanks Marty... that was a real education.
Don't get me wrong... I'd love a set of the Original Torque Thrust Ds. But the most recent set offered to me was $2000.... which, quite frankly, is way out of my budget. Which is why I was curious as to what other brands were available....
The set of Spyders was $500 with the nuts and caps. The Hollywoods were $250 shipped. I figured that at that price, I couldn't go wrong... if I didn't like em' I could move them on at my cost so it'd be a wash.
I was hoping that there would be enough guys who bought C2s with Aftermarket wheels, that wanted to go back to stock for NCRS purposes, that I would be able to grab their aftermarket ones... but I haven't had that luck yet.
My goal was to have my car look like one that would be seen in an A&P parking lot circa 1969 or so... maybe Hurst shifter, some neat aftermarket wheels... etc.
Hope springs eternal.
Don't get me wrong... I'd love a set of the Original Torque Thrust Ds. But the most recent set offered to me was $2000.... which, quite frankly, is way out of my budget. Which is why I was curious as to what other brands were available....
The set of Spyders was $500 with the nuts and caps. The Hollywoods were $250 shipped. I figured that at that price, I couldn't go wrong... if I didn't like em' I could move them on at my cost so it'd be a wash.
I was hoping that there would be enough guys who bought C2s with Aftermarket wheels, that wanted to go back to stock for NCRS purposes, that I would be able to grab their aftermarket ones... but I haven't had that luck yet.
My goal was to have my car look like one that would be seen in an A&P parking lot circa 1969 or so... maybe Hurst shifter, some neat aftermarket wheels... etc.
Hope springs eternal.
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