1960 leaf spring clips
#2
Team Owner
Those clips look nothing like the repro 'rebound' clips on my '61....
Yes, I know the crimp is incorrect - before anybody brings it up
Those clips are to keep the spring leaves from separating on rebound..the leaves need to be able to move slightly during rebound...those things you have might even be harmful...
Yes, I know the crimp is incorrect - before anybody brings it up
Those clips are to keep the spring leaves from separating on rebound..the leaves need to be able to move slightly during rebound...those things you have might even be harmful...
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 12-21-2014 at 02:17 PM.
#3
Instructor
Thread Starter
Those clips look nothing like the repro 'rebound' clips on my '61....
Yes, I know the crimp is incorrect - before anybody brings it up
Those clips are to keep the spring leaves from separating on rebound..the leaves need to be able to move slightly during rebound...those things you have might even be harmful...
Yes, I know the crimp is incorrect - before anybody brings it up
Those clips are to keep the spring leaves from separating on rebound..the leaves need to be able to move slightly during rebound...those things you have might even be harmful...
Maybe not corvette springs
#4
Safety Car
Definitely not original......for standard 4 leaf springs that is, but looking at your pics, they appear to be grooved original springs.
Are they 4 or 5 leaf? Please post a few pics of the entire assembly at different angles.
The optional 5 leaf Heavy Duty spring is another story. I've been told those leaf clamps varied. Some were riveted, some were band clamped but not like standard Signode clamps like in Frank's pics.
Riveted HD 5 leaf....
Are they 4 or 5 leaf? Please post a few pics of the entire assembly at different angles.
The optional 5 leaf Heavy Duty spring is another story. I've been told those leaf clamps varied. Some were riveted, some were band clamped but not like standard Signode clamps like in Frank's pics.
Riveted HD 5 leaf....
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if your question is "are they functional", then yes, the 'wear' marks show that the leaves are able to slide withing the clamp. personally, i would prefer the ones on your springs to those original style.
Last edited by wmf62; 12-22-2014 at 09:03 AM.
#6
Safety Car
Yes, all band clamps are made to be loose enough to allow the leaves to slide within the clamp. It's possible that the original Signode band clamps were replaced when the springs may have been re-tempered at a spring shop in the past.
Those shops would simply cut the band clamps off, do their re-tempered process, then use a replacement type clamp to re-band them. My '59 had it's springs re-tempered before I got the car and have similar replacement clamps.
If you're going to rebuild your springs and refinish them, replacement original type band clamps and paraffin coated liners are available. You need a special tool to crimp the clamps.
Here are photos of the process. I re-worked and reused the original clamps as the replacements miss some original features.
I forgot, I snapped this pic of my Buddy Nikki while taking a snooze when I was doing these '61 springs over last year. He passed on to Doggie Heaven just the other day, 14 yrs and 2 months old. He was always in the shop with me to keep me company and help me work on the cars. I really miss him.
Those shops would simply cut the band clamps off, do their re-tempered process, then use a replacement type clamp to re-band them. My '59 had it's springs re-tempered before I got the car and have similar replacement clamps.
If you're going to rebuild your springs and refinish them, replacement original type band clamps and paraffin coated liners are available. You need a special tool to crimp the clamps.
Here are photos of the process. I re-worked and reused the original clamps as the replacements miss some original features.
I forgot, I snapped this pic of my Buddy Nikki while taking a snooze when I was doing these '61 springs over last year. He passed on to Doggie Heaven just the other day, 14 yrs and 2 months old. He was always in the shop with me to keep me company and help me work on the cars. I really miss him.
Last edited by rich5962; 12-22-2014 at 05:27 AM.
#7
Instructor
Thread Starter
Yes, all band clamps are made to be loose enough to allow the leaves to slide within the clamp. It's possible that the original Signode band clamps were replaced when the springs may have been re-tempered at a spring shop in the past.
Those shops would simply cut the band clamps off, do their re-tempered process, then use a replacement type clamp to re-band them. My '59 had it's springs re-tempered before I got the car and have similar replacement clamps.
If you're going to rebuild your springs and refinish them, replacement original type band clamps and paraffin coated liners are available. You need a special tool to crimp the clamps.
Here are photos of the process. I re-worked and reused the original clamps as the replacements miss some original features.
Those shops would simply cut the band clamps off, do their re-tempered process, then use a replacement type clamp to re-band them. My '59 had it's springs re-tempered before I got the car and have similar replacement clamps.
If you're going to rebuild your springs and refinish them, replacement original type band clamps and paraffin coated liners are available. You need a special tool to crimp the clamps.
Here are photos of the process. I re-worked and reused the original clamps as the replacements miss some original features.
Now I have many hours in front of me to sandblast the leaves, find the liners, BAND-IT and tool.
Question : did you use a special paint for the leaves, I suspect a standard paint would be prone to cracking due to spring deformation.
Last edited by claudeC1'60; 12-22-2014 at 07:25 AM.
#8
Safety Car
Thanks Rich, your detail pictures are awesome !
Now I have many hours in front of me to sandblast the leaves, find the liners, BAND-IT and tool.
Question : did you use a special paint for the leaves, I suspect a standard paint would be prone to cracking due to spring deformation.
Now I have many hours in front of me to sandblast the leaves, find the liners, BAND-IT and tool.
Question : did you use a special paint for the leaves, I suspect a standard paint would be prone to cracking due to spring deformation.
The tool is a Northern Tool item, but needed some grinding and modifications to make the correct crimp. You can also rent them from Corvette Central and maybe others.
Mine is allocated for a upcoming job. But if timing is right you can borrow mine.
Rich
#9
Team Owner
I used the muslin liner and clips from Paragon - very nice repro parts but yes, the clips aren't exactly original. My '61 had a weird hodge-podge of non-original parts for the springs and left to right side springs didn't even match and only 1 C1 spring in the bunch. Car sat and rode fine oddly enough. May as well count on new rubber bushings too. You can do this job with the car on jack stands and thread the springs in and out withOUT removing anything else (contrary to popular belief).