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Now that I have confidence in my car and would like to take it on long, overnight trips. So my biggest worry is hotel security. I can ask to park as close to the front as possible under a light, use a car cover. Don't go to the cheap hotels like Motel 6. Any other ideas?
I often ask to park right in front of the lobby where a clerk can see it and more often than you might think they allow it... I don't think a car cover provides any theft protection.... I can spot a C2 Corvette under a car cover about 95% of the time... The next best thing is to park it dead in front of your room where you can see it. But then Bubba can roll in a little tipsy that night in his dualie and bang the snot out of your doors..
Ignition kill toggle switch is best without current...interrupt negative (-) side of the coil.
Not sure how effective these days but easy install . With yours hidden away somewhere 1-2 mock switches easily detected with wires crimped behind something makes for a time consuming deterrence. If they yank it out it appears to have been connected. Hopefully
they start cursing out loud .....by then the dog's barking .....you're rackin a round ! !!
Now that I have confidence in my car and would like to take it on long, overnight trips. So my biggest worry is hotel security. I can ask to park as close to the front as possible under a light, use a car cover. Don't go to the cheap hotels like Motel 6. Any other ideas?
This is a wireless motion detector transmitter and receiver I use when I park my car to go into a restaurant and such.
Put the black box down in the footwell on the driver side and take the receiver into your motel room. You'll get an alert from the receiver if anyone gets in your car or even reaches into the car from the outside.
As I recall, I think it has a range of about 300 feet.
This is a wireless motion detector transmitter and receiver I use when I park my car to go into a restaurant and such.
Put the black box down in the footwell on the driver side and take the receiver into your motel room. You'll get an alert from the receiver if anyone gets in your car or even reaches into the car from the outside.
As I recall, I think it has a range of about 300 feet.
Steve
I'm going to have to look into this.
I have looked at the several baby monitors that are out there.
Very few of them will work on a battery pack, but there are a couple.
I know my Daughters used them for my Grand-kids, and they are very sensitive.
sadly, it's not as pretty as yours, BUT it is cheaper....
Bill
Cheaper for sure. Mine was over $100. The only advantage I can see to mine is the receiver is smaller, about the size of a Tic Tac box. Still not worth the additional cost in my opinion.
I've got a Ravelco system wired in at eight different spots in my electrical system with a dash plug that connects to my key ring. Without the dash plug inserted, a good mechanic still cannot start the car. They may roll in onto a car carrier, but they will not drive it away.
So basically we are looking at two approaches to this issue.
One is to disable the capability of the vehicle to run (kill switch, fuel shutoff, etc.)
The other is to alert the owner if someone disturbs the car (motion detector)
Option three is the big azz chain. My dear friend, the late Dale Pearman, came up with this solution. He never lost a car as far as I know, and he had some very nice and valuable cars over the years.
We called this the logging chain solution. Kill switch unnecessary, fuel cutoff unnecessary, motion detector unnecessary. Yes, a good quality set of bolt cutters will defeat this soultion, but they better big really big, and really good bolt cutters.
I have wondered about using something like a "boot" vehicle immobilizer device. The same thing that municipalities use to keep cars from being moved. Any experience / thoughts on this.
Of course an determined thief will get the car. Our best option is a defense in depth approach that combines multiple solutions, making it so difficult that the thief moves on to the next car.
What surprises me is the number of people that have commented that they will / can leave their car in a local restaurant (or other establishment) unattended. My only questions is: "Are you absolutely sure that your insurance will pay the claim under those circumstances?"
So basically we are looking at two approaches to this issue.
One is to disable the capability of the vehicle to run (kill switch, fuel shutoff, etc.)
The other is to alert the owner if someone disturbs the car (motion detector)
Option three is the big azz chain. My dear friend, the late Dale Pearman, came up with this solution. He never lost a car as far as I know, and he had some very nice and valuable cars over the years.
We called this the logging chain solution. Kill switch unnecessary, fuel cutoff unnecessary, motion detector unnecessary. Yes, a good quality set of bolt cutters will defeat this soultion, but they better big really big, and really good bolt cutters.
I have wondered about using something like a "boot" vehicle immobilizer device. The same thing that municipalities use to keep cars from being moved. Any experience / thoughts on this.
Of course an determined thief will get the car. Our best option is a defense in depth approach that combines multiple solutions, making it so difficult that the thief moves on to the next car.
What surprises me is the number of people that have commented that they will / can leave their car in a local restaurant (or other establishment) unattended. My only questions is: "Are you absolutely sure that your insurance will pay the claim under those circumstances?"
Good discussion guys, thanks.
when you're on a road trip to West Bumfuk it gets a bit tedious to eat and sleep in the car, so ya gotta take a break sometime... AND there is not always a tree or light post to chain to...
when you're on a road trip to West Bumfuk it gets a bit tedious to eat and sleep in the car, so ya gotta take a break sometime... AND there is not always a tree or light post to chain to...
Bill
I hear you Bill.
Probably traveling to West Bumfuk is not something your insurance will allow? All I am saying is make sure you are covered.
It won't be the first time I have seen a car used outside of it's coverage limitations, and had a claim denied.
The most recent on was a late model damaged in an accident that had a claim filed. Then the insurance company checked UTube and found out that the car had been damaged in an accident while racing on a drag strip. Denied, insurance dropped, possible criminal charges for filing a false report. Oops!
Don't assume you are covered; MAKE DAMN SURE YOU ARE COVERED in your intended (or possibly unintended) use. And have fun!!!
In two weeks, I'm going to drive it to Bowling Green, tour the assembly line, and see the NCM. It will be parked in the front lit part of the motel with the Ravelco system off, so if they want it that badly, they can have it. Just hope that Hagerty will take care of me.
I just want to make sure about this, if I run a wire from the neg. side of coil to a toggle switch, and then to ground, I'm not going to damage my Pertronix 3?
So basically we are looking at two approaches to this issue.
One is to disable the capability of the vehicle to run (kill switch, fuel shutoff, etc.)
The other is to alert the owner if someone disturbs the car (motion detector)
Option three is the big azz chain. My dear friend, the late Dale Pearman, came up with this solution. He never lost a car as far as I know, and he had some very nice and valuable cars over the years.
We called this the logging chain solution. Kill switch unnecessary, fuel cutoff unnecessary, motion detector unnecessary. Yes, a good quality set of bolt cutters will defeat this soultion, but they better big really big, and really good bolt cutters.
I have wondered about using something like a "boot" vehicle immobilizer device. The same thing that municipalities use to keep cars from being moved. Any experience / thoughts on this.
Of course an determined thief will get the car. Our best option is a defense in depth approach that combines multiple solutions, making it so difficult that the thief moves on to the next car.
What surprises me is the number of people that have commented that they will / can leave their car in a local restaurant (or other establishment) unattended. My only questions is: "Are you absolutely sure that your insurance will pay the claim under those circumstances?"
Good discussion guys, thanks.
My NCM insurance expressly allows pleasure driving. A couple of times a week, my wife and I go for a drive and usually stop at a restaurant along the way for breakfast or lunch. Maybe Adam Boca can comment on this but I don't think we're expected to cut our ride short and head for home when we're hungry.
When we stop, I try to get a table near a window where I can see my car. Just in case I'm not able to get a table with a view of my car, I also remove my Hella red key cut off and turn on my wireless motion detector.
I believe I'm satisfying all of my obligations as far as insurance requirements as well as my own personal responsibilities to protect my car.
My NCM insurance expressly allows pleasure driving. A couple of times a week, my wife and I go for a drive and usually stop at a restaurant along the way for breakfast or lunch. Maybe Adam Boca can comment on this but I don't think we're expected to cut our ride short and head for home when we're hungry.
When we stop, I try to get a table near a window where I can see my car. Just in case I'm not able to get a table with a view of my car, I also remove my Hella red key cut off and turn on my wireless motion detector.
I believe I'm satisfying all of my obligations as far as insurance requirements as well as my own personal responsibilities to protect my car.
Steve
Steve;
I think you are OK, based on what Adam has told me as well (Adam jump in here if you are reading this).
I do know that the NCM policy specifically prohibits use of the vehicle to run errands, but user could drive it across the country to a car show. I do get the distinction.
No switch on this car but years ago I'd very discreetly interrupt the (-) coil side closer to the distributor hidden in a electric tape or loom harness sistered thru a firewall grommet with other entries then to my switch . Using an insulated toggle switch when off/open - no ground to points. When on/closed ground goes thru switch to points. Engine cranks, makes noise no spark. Here's a rather expensive switch +harness which assume the same procedure although the diagram doesn't say where to locate the switch interrupt. http://www.killswitchcentral.com/old...killswitch.htm
05-29-2017, 06:35 AM
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