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Old 02-23-2016, 12:36 PM
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Default Is it possible to "clone/convert" a non 1102268 generator into a 1102268 generator?

Does anybody have a 1102268 generator (correct for 340 horse 62 vette) that they would be willing to post pics of? End pics as well please. Length please. I have a generator with a tag of 1102187 dated 0E4 (May 4, 1960 correct?) which is not a pwr st./tach drive generator that I would like to convert to a 1102268 if possible. I know the 1102268 is a 35 amp generator. BTW I can't seem to find a site on the web for a delco remy generator application chart. Does anyone have a link for that. THXS for your help.
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Go here: http://corvette-world.com/news.html
Click on the "Corvette Specifications" tab and all the number information for C1/C2s is there. You won't find info on non-Corvette generator applications - only Corvettes.

You can get generator Delco-Remy tags reproduced with anything you want on them. Cut off the heads of the mounting rivets, put them in the tag holes and JB-Weld the tag to the generator in the right location; voila - you have 110268 unit.

What you really want to watch for is that the generator has the right end "frame" - many Corvette generators are running about on passenger frames. They work fine but the frame is not correct (see attachment).
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As always Frankie U R da-man. You rock my friend. Thank you Frankie
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There are significant amounts of bad information in that article and in the editors comments. Mount would do much better to reference the NCRS article from 1978 or 1979. More complete and more correct.
Bottom line: by the time you source and pay for a rear plate, a front plate, and a pulley (along with a tag), you would be better off buying an original generator.
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Do you happen to have the end to end measurements of the correct & incorrect front & rear end plates 61corv?
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Go here: http://corvette-world.com/news.html
Click on the "Corvette Specifications" tab and all the number information for C1/C2s is there. You won't find info on non-Corvette generator applications - only Corvettes.

You can get generator Delco-Remy tags reproduced with anything you want on them. Cut off the heads of the mounting rivets, put them in the tag holes and JB-Weld the tag to the generator in the right location; voila - you have 110268 unit.

What you really want to watch for is that the generator has the right end "frame" - many Corvette generators are running about on passenger frames. They work fine but the frame is not correct (see attachment).
I don't want to rain on Frankie being "the man" parade, but his attachment for the generator plates is for 58-61. Both 62 low and high-horse generators (1102174 and 1102268) are non tach-drive. They are high-standoff plates, with the rears being the same on both (cast iron, large bearing, cover plate mound large center, while the front plate on a 2174 is aluminum with fins and a large rubber-bushed mount, while the front plate is cast iron, high-standoff, small mount hole, with nubs. The NCRS certainly is not perfect, but they have had this information in their 61-62 judging guide for over 30 years.
By the way, the plate that mounts to the exhaust manifold is different for the 2268, as is the u-shaped bracket that bolts to the plate and to which the generator bolts.
Do you want to know also about the front and rear plate oiler caps? Etc?
And of course, with different mounts and a different diameter pulley, you need a different belt.
I'd humbly suggest that obtaining a 61-62 JG for $50 can quickly more than pay for itself in not purchasing incorrect parts.

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Thank you very much 62. Perhaps Frankie's attachment was extra info to point out the diff between Pass & Vette gens for 58-61 which were tach drive gens. I sincerely appreciate your very helpful info.
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Lots of Chevy (and GM) generators look alike and interchange. At least one of the usual Corvette parts vendors sells tags, so you can make one into another and get the correct dates for your car.

Except for the 2268 one. The 2268 one is distinctive in that it has 2 "nubs" on the front end frame. So if you want to convert a generic Chevy generator into something, don't make it a 2268 one.

Because of its uniqueness, the 2268 generator is expensive. If you don't have to have a 2268 one for judging, you might be better off with a generic one. NAPA has one for $114. But they are out of stock. This is an item that you may be able to find (or order) at your FLAPS (friendly local auto parts store).

Please let us know what the year and HP of your car is, and what you are trying to accomplish.
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Hey Frankie the attachment with the pic of the REAR end plates for a 56-61 gen showing the diff between Pass & vette plates was VERY helpful. Do you have a pic showing the FRONT end plates of Pass & vette gens 56-61? Thxs David Edit: I have a 1102043 (56-61) with a busted mounting hole at the top of the front end plate. Perhaps it's repairable. ???

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While we're on the subject, what is it that makes the difference between a 30 and a 35amp generator? Is it the generator itself, or, is it the voltage regulator?
Replacement parts for a 30 and 35amp gen seem to be the same.
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Originally Posted by Solid Axle Guy
Hey Frankie the attachment with the pic of the REAR end plates for a 56-61 gen showing the diff between Pass & vette plates was VERY helpful. Do you have a pic showing the FRONT end plates of Pass & vette gens 56-61? Thxs David Edit: I have a 1102043 (56-61) with a busted mounting hole at the top of the front end plate. Perhaps it's repairable. ???
Nope - don't actually have a pic of the front of those generators...
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Originally Posted by DZAUTO
While we're on the subject, what is it that makes the difference between a 30 and a 35amp generator? Is it the generator itself, or, is it the voltage regulator?
Replacement parts for a 30 and 35amp gen seem to be the same.
Tom,
The armatures are different.

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Here's the front frame of a 2268 with an original pulley.

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The 35 amp generator uses larger brushes and holders. Bill
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Originally Posted by chris ritchie
Lots of Chevy (and GM) generators look alike and interchange. At least one of the usual Corvette parts vendors sells tags, so you can make one into another and get the correct dates for your car.

Except for the 2268 one. The 2268 one is distinctive in that it has 2 "nubs" on the front end frame. So if you want to convert a generic Chevy generator into something, don't make it a 2268 one.

Because of its uniqueness, the 2268 generator is expensive. If you don't have to have a 2268 one for judging, you might be better off with a generic one. NAPA has one for $114. But they are out of stock. This is an item that you may be able to find (or order) at your FLAPS (friendly local auto parts store).

Please let us know what the year and HP of your car is, and what you are trying to accomplish.
Thxs Chris. Can you post a pic of the front end frame/plate that has the "nubs?" Hold the phone. Maybe W Guy has already posted it. I see 2 nubs on the outside of the plate. I'm assuming those are the ones you are referring to.

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Call a few junk yards and ask if they have a '61 or '62 Chevy C10-30 pick up with a 6cyl. They had the same 2268 generators.
If all else fails, the front and rear frames have been reproduced.

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Thanks Verne. Link or info on repro front & rear frames/plates???

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I have no links, but I vaguely recall a guy who called himself Red Roadster or Red Rooster at Carlisle who I believe did the front frames. Piper does the rear ones but check for references on him as I've heard some negative reviews.

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found this:

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Originally Posted by DZAUTO
While we're on the subject, what is it that makes the difference between a 30 and a 35amp generator? Is it the generator itself, or, is it the voltage regulator?
Replacement parts for a 30 and 35amp gen seem to be the same.
I believe the armature and field coils for a 35 amp generator are as follow

armature- Delco #1940161
field coils- Delco #1922701

2268 generator (drive end plate) Delco 1947307-nubs @ 3 & 9 oclock
2268 " ( commutator end plate) Delco 1947303 has the large 1.5
inch bearing cap
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