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Old 03-20-2016, 09:49 AM
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With the announcement of the founder (member #1), and his family members leaving the NCRS, what does the future hold for the group?
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I have been told as you get older your priorities change. those members have been doing that for over 40 years now. im sure it takes a lot to keep that ship sailing right with all the big egos involved. someone will steep up and lead for many years to come. like I said NCRS isn't going anywhere anytime soon. while solid axles and mid years were the back bone for NCRS other gens will get more light. we are already seeing that with the new C5 manual
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Kevin,
Where did you see that announcement? I only had seen that's #1 was retiring.
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Where did you see that announcement? I only had seen that's #1 was retiring.
Sticky top of the NCRS Discussion Board page.

"Dear Members,

As previously announced in my Winter Restorer column, Gary Mortimer retired at the end of his current term, which was effective on Thursday, March 17th. Gary's retirement was a Board decision, taken as a first step in addressing NCRS's financial situation, which is discussed in my Spring Restorer column.

The Board's plan was for Eric Mortimer to take charge of operations in Cincinnati, and we had offered him increased responsibilities. Unexpectedly, late Thursday afternoon March 17th I received an email from Eric announcing that he is resigning effective March 31st.

The Board spent Thursday evening and much of Friday putting together a plan to handle the various tasks formerly handled by the Cincinnati office. This plan will take some time to implement and there will undoubtedly be some bumps in the road, but with your patience and understanding we will get through this.

Best regards,

Mike Ingham"

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As long as there is a market for original Corvettes, there will always be a place for the NCRS. Just look as sales prices of NCRS Top Flight cars compared to similar cars that have not been judged. Just because the majority of participating members is over 65 doesn't mean new retirees won't take their place as the years go on. It has always been an older man's sport, few have time to restore cars while they are raising children and working long hours.

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Gary's retirement was a Board decision,
His priorities may have changed, but it sounds like he was not the one who changed them!

The Board's plan was for Eric Mortimer to take charge.... Eric announc(ed) that he is resigning effective March 31st.
It's pretty obvious that major political upheaval is going on there. I have no dog in the fight, but given the contributions the organization has made to the hobby over the years I hope they get things straightened out and continue their work.
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Kevin,
Where did you see that announcement? I only had seen that's #1 was retiring.
I tried to tell you guys that yesterday but it was dismissed as unsubstantiated.

There may be more to the story. Don't touch that dial.
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I tried to tell you guys that yesterday but it was dismissed as unsubstantiated.

There may be more to the story. Don't touch that dial.
Do tell? I'm all
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Hmm... People retiring and resigning as a response to an organizations financial situation?

There will be more to the story.
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Originally Posted by War Bonnet View Post
With the announcement of the founder (member #1), and his family members leaving the NCRS, what does the future hold for the group?
Gary is a true gentleman. Sorry to see him get push out like this.
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This thread will be shut down before the end of the day...

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Change is good (and necessary) for an organizations health and survival. I'm sure NCRS will do just fine.
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I haven't been to a Chapter meeting in a few years, but the local Chapter has a meeting tomorrow night, and it might be worth attending, just to hear what's going on. The former NCRS National president is a member of our local Chapter, and may have some insight into what's happening at National.

Hey War Bonnet, have you talked to John Kane about the shake up? As the Director for Region III, John must have participated in those board meetings on Thursday and Friday.
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This thread will be shut down before the end of the day...

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Originally Posted by bighouse View Post
Hmm... People retiring and resigning as a response to an organizations financial situation?

There will be more to the story.
The purpose of this post.....
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Gary is a true gentleman. Sorry to see him get push out like this.
Always very kind to me!
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This thread will be shut down before the end of the day...

If our discussion remains civil, there's no reason to remove it....
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Change is good (and necessary) for an organizations health and survival. I'm sure NCRS will do just fine.
True, nothing last forever....Not so sure about the "fine" part but.....
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I haven't been to a Chapter meeting in a few years, but the local Chapter has a meeting tomorrow night, and it might be worth attending, just to hear what's going on. The former NCRS National president is a member of our local Chapter, and may have some insight into what's happening at National.

Hey War Bonnet, have you talked to John Kane about the shake up? As the Director for Region III, John must have participated in those board meetings on Thursday and Friday.
gb, I'm certain that Mr. Kane attended, but I have not had the opportunity to speak with him lately...Second hand information can be difficult to interpret at times....
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It was publically posted that the thread yesterday would be shut down, insinuating that the discussion of this topic is somehow taboo to me or someone else. I removed that remark because it was a public comment about site moderation and contained vague, untrue reasoning for it. As does this post.

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This thread will be shut down before the end of the day...

In before it's locked!!

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Originally Posted by Loren Smith View Post
As long as there is a market for original Corvettes, there will always be a place for the NCRS. Just look as sales prices of NCRS Top Flight cars compared to similar cars that have not been judged. Just because the majority of participating members is over 65 doesn't mean new retirees won't take their place as the years go on. It has always been an older man's sport, few have time to restore cars while they are raising children and working long hours.
Sales prices of TF Corvettes doesn't address the 'financial situation' of the NCRS. Unrelated.

Older man's sport is right and we'll have to see if some cadre of 65 year olds is waiting in the wings to step in. I turn 65 in two months and have been shedding professional and volunteer duties rapidly to spend more time with family, etc..
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Sales prices of TF Corvettes doesn't address the 'financial situation' of the NCRS. Unrelated.

Older man's sport is right and we'll have to see if some cadre of 65 year olds is waiting in the wings to step in. I turn 65 in two months and have been shedding professional and volunteer duties rapidly to spend more time with family, etc..
I'd have to respectfully disagree with the bolded...The numbers of participants having their cars Flight Judged, is a direct correlation to the condition of finances with the group. The huge number of entrants of years ago has dropped off significantly. They couldn't possibly continue supporting the amount of dollars needed, with the several paying positions, along today's cost involved in running the NCRS. If only those exact numbers were made available to the membership, full disclosure, then we might understand more clearly.....

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I get that WB, but I doubt eBay/Mecum sales of TF cars is affecting the NCRS finances...
Fees paid by judging participants certainly do, of course..
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