C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

Sbc bellhousing inspection plate use.

Old 05-17-2016, 11:03 AM
  #1  
frankgv
Racer
Thread Starter
 
frankgv's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 412
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts

Default Sbc bellhousing inspection plate use.

Hi all.
By removing the bellhousing inspection plate on a sbc can the condition of the clutch be determined or what will become visible for "inspection"
Thanks.
Frank.
Old 05-17-2016, 12:29 PM
  #2  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

If it's a C1 the answer is no. If it's a C2 the answer is also no but you can confirm a disc (or what's left of it) is in place. That's about all.

Last edited by MikeM; 05-17-2016 at 12:36 PM.
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 01:44 PM
  #3  
tuxnharley
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tuxnharley's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 13,961
Received 1,937 Likes on 1,183 Posts

Default

You can check the condition of the teeth on the flywheel.
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 01:59 PM
  #4  
wmf62
Race Director
 
wmf62's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Inverness FL
Posts: 17,891
Received 727 Likes on 621 Posts
St. Jude Donor '07

Default

IF you have a C1 with the 2 piece bellhousing, and IF you readjust the clutch linkage so that you get maximum throwout fork travel, and IF you have someone someone hold the clutch in; then you, with a strong light and using a screwdriver to push the disc to one side to take up the clearance, you might be able to see the face of the disc/pressure plate/flywheel..

or not...
Bill

ps: remember to readjust pedal
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 01:59 PM
  #5  
wmf62
Race Director
 
wmf62's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Inverness FL
Posts: 17,891
Received 727 Likes on 621 Posts
St. Jude Donor '07

Default

Originally Posted by MikeM
If it's a C1 the answer is no. If it's a C2 the answer is also no but you can confirm a disc (or what's left of it) is in place. That's about all.
Mike
I think you have that backwards....
Bill
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 02:08 PM
  #6  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by wmf62
Mike
I think you have that backwards....
Bill
Yeah, I do.
Old 05-17-2016, 03:53 PM
  #7  
frankgv
Racer
Thread Starter
 
frankgv's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 412
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts

Default Inspection bellhousing plate

[It's a c2. What do you have back wards. Lol.


QUOTE=MikeM;1592233837]Yeah, I do.[/QUOTE]
Old 05-17-2016, 04:25 PM
  #8  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by frankgv
[It's a c2. What do you have back wards. Lol.


QUOTE=MikeM;1592233837]Yeah, I do.
[/QUOTE]

This is the way I should have posted...................

If it's a C2 the answer is no. If it's a C1 the answer is also no but you can confirm a disc (or what's left of it) is in place. That's about all.

Bill is right, you can check the teeth on your flywheel on a C2.

Be careful when you put that dust cover back on. Don't bend it and if it's a later replacement, make sure it's hooked over the oil pan flange. You can get that thing in contact with the flywheel bolts and it makes a noise like you wouldn't believe.
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 04:33 PM
  #9  
Kerouac
Pro
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Kerouac's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2014
Location: South Pasadena CA
Posts: 548
Received 38 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by wmf62
Mike
I think you have that backwards....
Bill
This is why I wait before acting on what people tell me and it is also why I love this Forum.
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 05:13 PM
  #10  
tuxnharley
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tuxnharley's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 13,961
Received 1,937 Likes on 1,183 Posts

Default



Bill is right, you can check the teeth on your flywheel on a C2.
.[/QUOTE]


Bill???? Who the heck is Bill?

That post was by me!

Glenn

Last edited by tuxnharley; 05-17-2016 at 05:14 PM.
The following users liked this post:
frankgv (05-17-2016)
Old 05-17-2016, 06:12 PM
  #11  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

Rather than fool around getting all dirty, the easiest thing to do is rev the engine a little and pop the clutch and if you can leave two black marks behind you, there's little to no reason to even wonder what the clutch looks like or who told you where to look.



If there's no black marks and the engine just revs up and the clutch is adjusted by the book, no need to LOOK, just start pulling the transmission.


Last edited by MikeM; 05-17-2016 at 06:13 PM.
Old 05-17-2016, 06:35 PM
  #12  
Mr D.
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Mr D.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2002
Location: Huntsville AL
Posts: 41,440
Received 1,479 Likes on 1,000 Posts

Default

I like Mike's KISS procedure.
Old 05-18-2016, 10:46 AM
  #13  
71scgc
Melting Slicks

 
71scgc's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2010
Location: Emerald Isle NC
Posts: 2,154
Received 58 Likes on 57 Posts

Default

KISS formula rules. I also call it the Carl Childers Method.

Carter
Old 05-18-2016, 12:19 PM
  #14  
wmf62
Race Director
 
wmf62's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Inverness FL
Posts: 17,891
Received 727 Likes on 621 Posts
St. Jude Donor '07

Default

Originally Posted by MikeM
Rather than fool around getting all dirty, the easiest thing to do is rev the engine a little and pop the clutch and if you can leave two black marks behind you, there's little to no reason to even wonder what the clutch looks like or who told you where to look.



If there's no black marks and the engine just revs up and the clutch is adjusted by the book, no need to LOOK, just start pulling the transmission.

Mike
this one still worked... so I guess I shouldn't have replaced it.....

Bill
Attached Images  
Old 05-18-2016, 12:39 PM
  #15  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

Back when JFK was still alive, I had a disc do that in my '56 Bel Air. I didn't know anything was wrong until I heard the pieces of clutch lining hitting the flywheel.

Best I remember, before that happened, I couldn't spin the tires anyway as the clutch disc was oil soaked and slipped pretty bad under a hard load. I think the heat cooked the facing. So, I already knew I had a problem.

I haven't had a disc do that since.

Putting in a new disc in a '56 Bel Air was maybe a 30 minute job but I didn't get in any hurry to replace it. Lack of funds.
Old 05-18-2016, 01:28 PM
  #16  
GTOguy
Race Director
 
GTOguy's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: Fresno California
Posts: 17,503
Received 3,443 Likes on 2,113 Posts
Default

In 40 years of working on cars as a pro, I have never diagnosed a bad clutch visually through an inspection cover. Every time I diagnosed one, there was a DRIVEABILITY issue, such as chattering, slippage, non-operation, etc. I'm with Mike M on this one.
Old 05-18-2016, 03:03 PM
  #17  
tuxnharley
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tuxnharley's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 13,961
Received 1,937 Likes on 1,183 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by GTOguy
In 40 years of working on cars as a pro, I have never diagnosed a bad clutch visually through an inspection cover. Every time I diagnosed one, there was a DRIVEABILITY issue, such as chattering, slippage, non-operation, etc. I'm with Mike M on this one.
Every clutch problem I have ever seen showed up first through a driveability issue.
Old 05-18-2016, 03:04 PM
  #18  
wmf62
Race Director
 
wmf62's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Inverness FL
Posts: 17,891
Received 727 Likes on 621 Posts
St. Jude Donor '07

Default

Originally Posted by GTOguy
In 40 years of working on cars as a pro, I have never diagnosed a bad clutch visually through an inspection cover. Every time I diagnosed one, there was a DRIVEABILITY issue, such as chattering, slippage, non-operation, etc. I'm with Mike M on this one.
you could definitely have seen the one in the picture above...
Bill
Old 05-18-2016, 03:07 PM
  #19  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by wmf62
you could definitely have seen the one in the picture above...
Bill
The OP has a C2. Now what do you want to do? Looks like all he can do is count the teeth on the ring gear?

Get notified of new replies

To Sbc bellhousing inspection plate use.



Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Sbc bellhousing inspection plate use.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 PM.