Help with numbers
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Help with numbers
As some of you may have read I'm on the hunt for a 66 BB coupe. I possibly may have found one but now need help with the VIN tag & Trim tag numbers as well as the block number and what ever else I could have them find. The car is located a distance away and I have someone proficient in C2's that will check it over for me provided what you see here passes the smell test!
Last edited by My addiction; 05-31-2016 at 12:02 PM.
#3
Race Director
Two things catch my attention and make me wonder about the authenticity of what is shown in those pictures:
1. The Z bar appears to have been recoated/repainted in black. That would not be a factory finish.
2. The broach marks and impressions on the stamp pad appear to be extremely clean and fresh for what is supposed to be a 60 year old original pad.
If it were me I would be very skeptical and cautious about this car. A true expert - more than me - is an absolute requirement to validate this one. Personally I would not buy it without some other documentation of its authenticity.
1. The Z bar appears to have been recoated/repainted in black. That would not be a factory finish.
2. The broach marks and impressions on the stamp pad appear to be extremely clean and fresh for what is supposed to be a 60 year old original pad.
If it were me I would be very skeptical and cautious about this car. A true expert - more than me - is an absolute requirement to validate this one. Personally I would not buy it without some other documentation of its authenticity.
#4
Racer
Thread Starter
Hmmm! Not necessarily what I wanted to hear but better now than later. Do you think it's a replacement block or period correct or ??
#5
Racer
Thread Starter
Two things catch my attention and make me wonder about the authenticity of what is shown in those pictures:
1. The Z bar appears to have been recoated/repainted in black. That would not be a factory finish.
2. The broach marks and impressions on the stamp pad appear to be extremely clean and fresh for what is supposed to be a 60 year old original pad.
If it were me I would be very skeptical and cautious about this car. A true expert - more than me - is an absolute requirement to validate this one. Personally I would not buy it without some other documentation of its authenticity.
1. The Z bar appears to have been recoated/repainted in black. That would not be a factory finish.
2. The broach marks and impressions on the stamp pad appear to be extremely clean and fresh for what is supposed to be a 60 year old original pad.
If it were me I would be very skeptical and cautious about this car. A true expert - more than me - is an absolute requirement to validate this one. Personally I would not buy it without some other documentation of its authenticity.
#6
Race Director
Are the heads painted on this car or bare? The visible head surfaces above the block stamp in the photo almost look aluminum(?).
A question for you block stamp experts - that block stamp looks too close to the head to have been made after engine assembly. I don't remember ever hearing that the block was stamped prior to heads being installed but possibly I just never read that or have forgotten.
A question for you block stamp experts - that block stamp looks too close to the head to have been made after engine assembly. I don't remember ever hearing that the block was stamped prior to heads being installed but possibly I just never read that or have forgotten.
#7
Race Director
Are the heads painted on this car or bare? The visible head surfaces above the block stamp in the photo almost look aluminum(?).
A question for you block stamp experts - that block stamp looks too close to the head to have been made after engine assembly. I don't remember ever hearing that the block was stamped prior to heads being installed but possibly I just never read that or have forgotten.
A question for you block stamp experts - that block stamp looks too close to the head to have been made after engine assembly. I don't remember ever hearing that the block was stamped prior to heads being installed but possibly I just never read that or have forgotten.
JohnZ even had pics of the stamp holder and the stamping procedure. It's in the archives.
Larry
#8
Race Director
#9
Racer
Thread Starter
Are the heads painted on this car or bare? The visible head surfaces above the block stamp in the photo almost look aluminum(?).
A question for you block stamp experts - that block stamp looks too close to the head to have been made after engine assembly. I don't remember ever hearing that the block was stamped prior to heads being installed but possibly I just never read that or have forgotten.
A question for you block stamp experts - that block stamp looks too close to the head to have been made after engine assembly. I don't remember ever hearing that the block was stamped prior to heads being installed but possibly I just never read that or have forgotten.
here's a picture of the engine bay.....
#10
Race Director
Another thought:
A late '66 production VIN like this one (#26112) would not have had the 450 HP sticker. That appears to have been incorrectly added in an attempt to over do the restoration.
A late '66 production VIN like this one (#26112) would not have had the 450 HP sticker. That appears to have been incorrectly added in an attempt to over do the restoration.
Last edited by tuxnharley; 05-31-2016 at 07:39 PM. Reason: Typo
#11
Le Mans Master
Here's a 66 BB that looks promising, and priced right. https://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/5610722404.html
#12
Race Director
Lots of other differences from original.............don't know if that matters to you.
Larry
#14
Race Director
#16
Team Owner
I'm no expert but that engine pad looks vintage 2015 to me.
#18
Melting Slicks
Not sure where the car is priced, but a couple of small items that are incorrect make you wonder how many other things are wrong. Outside of the engine and paint issues others have pointed out, the fiberglass lip around the top surround should not be painted black, it should be body color. Also, the master cylinder is a 67 up replacement. A correct 66 PB master cylinder will set you back a wad of dead presidents.
Last edited by jrm5657; 05-31-2016 at 09:13 PM.
#19
Race Director
Looks like it has 67 type plug wires - which is understandable if it has incorrect aluminum heads on it (no plug shield bolt holes). Pretty much what my car is running - 69 aluminum heads and 67 plug wires.
#20
Everyone knows me as they guy who hates all this numbers matching crap, but I was once addicted as well and did some judging.....my knee jerk reaction is.....restamp. I could be wrong , but my BS alarms went off when i saw the pad. If you like the car for petes sake if its priced fair go for it.
Last edited by 396/425; 05-31-2016 at 07:34 PM.