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Old 12-11-2016, 02:20 PM
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Just fix it!

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Old 12-11-2016, 02:35 PM
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Come on man you can fix your rear end so you have the ability to swap out a stupid heater core. Just do it. If you don't those NCRS wacko types will drive you bonkers with their wonderful insight.
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
And therein lies the rub.

So it's a conundrum. Or, is it a cucumber or concubine?.........I don't remember.

My triple black car gets HOTand I've wished for A/C more than a few dozen times. Especially on the road from Joisey to Hampton Roads in 105 degree July heat a few years ago. But the other part of me doesn't want to ruin the beautiful engine bay with an ugly compressor and hoses, because, yes I too suffer with brown index finger disease.



Did you ever install a heater core shut off valve? They can be placed quite inconspicuously and, made a HUGE difference in the cabin temperature of my coupe.

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Old 12-11-2016, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
I'm going back and forth on this. No I never use the heater because I don't usually drive the old Vette when the weather is brutally cold. It's a PITA job to replace, but the plugged hoses hanging there are driving me crazy.
Replace it. It's not all that difficult and can be done in a few hours by yourself.
Old 12-11-2016, 03:45 PM
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What's this? A mid-year Corvette owner needing a rationalization? Mid-years, OCD, and rationalizations go hand in hand.

Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
And therein lies the rub.

So it's a conundrum. Or, is it a cucumber or concubine?.........I don't remember.

My triple black car gets HOTand I've wished for A/C more than a few dozen times. Especially on the road from Joisey to Hampton Roads in 105 degree July heat a few years ago. But the other part of me doesn't want to ruin the beautiful engine bay with an ugly compressor and hoses, because, yes I too suffer with brown index finger disease.

Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
I appreciate your advice.

I don't think so about project creep. I completely restored this car myself and everything is either new or refurbed in 2002 or so......including re-riveting the inner box, new seals, etc. So that's not a concern.

Heater core was new at that time as well but, unfortunately, the pressure cap split it open. I'm lucky it wasn't the radiator.
Originally Posted by MarkC
You have talked about a/c for several years. If you want it now is the time to install it. I have it and it sure makes hot days more enjoyable.
Seems clear to me, given all the factors above, that this is the time to fix both your heater core and lack of AC. I'm sure that can be rationalized on several facets.
Old 12-11-2016, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by karkrafter
You take a proper sized frost plug and install one at both heater hoses as they enter the heater core. Situate them maybe and 1 1/2 from the end of the hose. Install hose clamps. That will block the hoses, Then slid the hoses on the snouts off the heated core. You can clamp em again or just leave them pushed on if the fit is tight, [If you can't easily get to the hearer core put the plugs near the engine side but then you will HAVE to double clamp, You can use wood dowels as well [if you want something longer to plug the hose] I've used both with no issue ever. My 66 GTO has been blocked for 26 years...

Done, no one will know and you won't have 200 degree water inside the car.
Believe it or not, it's 160 degree coolant, not 200.

You know.....I tried a broom handle trimmed and diameters reduced but guess what.........they leaked.

The Dorman plugs sound like a good idea.

I mean, as all you guys know, I'll put sawdust in the diff and gear oil in the crank when it's time to sell this puppy. But I need to convince a potential victim......I mean, buyer that there's nothing wrong with the heater, just a bad design is all.

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Old 12-11-2016, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
Come on Joe, get with the program and change the thing out, for crying out loud.
Agree it's a crappy job, but not difficult.
If I lived closer I'd come over and help you.
Your triple black deserves to be right, not bubba'd up.
Jeez Don, you're only 3000 plus miles away. Can't you afford a plane ticket? Steaks on the barbie and lots-a-brewskis.

Much as I hate to admit it, these projects are more dread than pleasure now. I have 2 others with higher priority set for this winter. One of which involves a trans/clutch drop.
Old 12-11-2016, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOguy
I think Joe just wanted permission to not do the right thing and bypass the blown core. Human nature....none of us likes to be stuck with a crappy, labor intensive job. But it's the only right choice here, and Joe knows it....
Suggest you just fix it. Did mine myself and the job really wasn't that bad considering other repairs on my car I've done. In the long run you will be glad you did.
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Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
Jeez Don, you're only 3000 plus miles away. Can't you afford a plane ticket? Steaks on the barbie and lots-a-brewskis.

Much as I hate to admit it, these projects are more dread than pleasure now. I have 2 others with higher priority set for this winter. One of which involves a trans/clutch drop.
I hear you,
just the thought of crawling in that doorway, and under that dash makes my back hurt. Take the seat out, remove the glove box, give yourself some room to work. Lay a moving blanket in there so all is protected and you have some padding, and get on with it.
You will done by Miller time.
Old 12-11-2016, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
And therein lies the rub.

So it's a conundrum. Or, is it a cucumber or concubine?.........I don't remember.

My triple black car gets HOTand I've wished for A/C more than a few dozen times.
At this stage of the game AC gets the nod. If heater core replacement is in the cards anyway you're already half way there. My car is a vert too. Old guy disease notwithstanding (67) some days are just too dang hot top down.
Adding Vintage Air to my car has been a great a comfort adder. Installation of VA was a PITA, no bones about that - your back and knees won't thank you for it. After all said and done it was worth the effort, IMO.
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:20 PM
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Default Vintage Air ?

If you think replacing the heater core is too hard you better stay away from the vintage air install . I am currently installing the vintage air direct fit system in my 66 El Camino and it is a giant PIA . That is unless you want to shell out a few thousand and have someone do it for you .
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:24 PM
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If you want A/C, now is the time.... If not fix the problem at hand!!!!!!!!!!! Chip
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:24 PM
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Joe, I'm going back to the office next week for a couple of days and will make a pair of plugs for you. They are easy to install and remove and you only need the normal clamps installed as original. Then you can think about it for a few more months
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There's an old country song that goes

"I'd rather be sorry for something I've done
than for something that I didn't do"

I'm guessing that if you block it off, it will continue to nag at you, you'll have that subtle feeling that something just isn't right.

So the choice comes down to stock, or vintage air. Throw a dart, flip a coin, use that Thanksgiving turkey wishbone, whatever - pick one or the other and go with it!
Old 12-12-2016, 03:27 AM
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If the look of the hoses drive you nutz then buy some heater hose shut off valves and install them in the hoses. They're used in hot climates to keep the heat out of the passenger compartment. Then fix it when you want, if you want.

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I/d go with the Vintage Air if it were mine. If it's an original car just keep all the old heater parts.

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Originally Posted by biggd
I/d go with the Vintage Air if it were mine. If it's an original car just keep all the old heater parts.
Which is what I did and guess what ?

You don't just get A/C you get REAL defrosters and not those baby breath puffs of air out the vents that clear a dollar-bill sized spot on the windshield that you crane your neck to look through.....and a heater that will roast your toes...

Otherwise, as noted, O-Reilly, NAPA and other FLAPS have the cutoff valves.

Finally, most jobs that I spent weeks dreading are just 'work' once you get started and the clouds part once you're into it and things just move along and you look up at some point and you're done

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Old 12-12-2016, 09:06 AM
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Someday ,perhaps, a discussion will arise on this forum about the potential purchase of your car.

Most posters will say, take a grand off the asking price, because the heater core has to be replaced.

then again you may not care at a that point.
Old 12-12-2016, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jbmcrae
Joe, I'm going back to the office next week for a couple of days and will make a pair of plugs for you. They are easy to install and remove and you only need the normal clamps installed as original. Then you can think about it for a few more months
John
Thanks John!
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Not only take a grand off because the heater core was bypassed, but the rest of the car would be suspect, too. In 40 years of buying old cars, every one that I bought that had a bypassed heater core had a myriad of other bubba shortcuts throughout the car. Cars that were maintained properly tended to have good integrity everywhere. Nope, a car with a by-passed heater core is a 'fixer', period. It needs repair right off the bat.


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