[C2] How many people care if their car had prior body work
12-14-2016, 09:01 AM
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Some people pay extra when they can see every bonding strip and body reinforcement through the paint where the bonding adhesive has shrunk over the years. I'm one of them. If you can see every point you know right off that the body panels are original or it's been a very long time since work was done.
Many repaints include block sanding and this obliterates the evidence.
I think the worst case is when you not only get poor structural and surface repairs, major panel misalignment is also thrown in for good measure. Based on what I've seen and read here, many don't notice or don't seem to mind those conditions.
Many repaints include block sanding and this obliterates the evidence.
I think the worst case is when you not only get poor structural and surface repairs, major panel misalignment is also thrown in for good measure. Based on what I've seen and read here, many don't notice or don't seem to mind those conditions.
12-14-2016, 09:20 AM
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I would bet that more the 75 per cent of any C1 or C2 Corvette has had some type of body work done to it, big or small most of these cars have been hit or bumped at one time or another. It would depend on the amount of body work done to a car and how good the work was. If the work repairing a body hit car was done correctly unless you stripped the paint on the car you probably could not tell at all. if you can tell from a quick glance that some work had been done to the car it probably was not done correctly and it should not be worth as much as a car that was done right. That is my story and I am sticking to it. 
12-14-2016, 09:33 AM
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There is a perception that a car that has been in an accident is worth less that one that has not.
It is based upon the fact that if given a choice, you would always buy a brand new car over the other brand new car that had been in an accident.
This is fueled by the fact that few people know how to repair a car and they fear that a car cannot be correctly repaired, due to their lack of knowledge.
Of course, there is also the fact that it may have been repaired by Bubba, and lacking the knowledge of proper repairs, they chose to pass on an other wise good purchase.
The actual fact is that most cars have been repaired in their life time and one should expect to have to re-repair any car that they buy.
Personally, I would want to buy a car that has not been recently refinished so that I might see any repairs needed.
Even if you were to purchase a daily driver you should budget in $1000 of repairs in the first several months.
It is based upon the fact that if given a choice, you would always buy a brand new car over the other brand new car that had been in an accident.
This is fueled by the fact that few people know how to repair a car and they fear that a car cannot be correctly repaired, due to their lack of knowledge.
Of course, there is also the fact that it may have been repaired by Bubba, and lacking the knowledge of proper repairs, they chose to pass on an other wise good purchase.
The actual fact is that most cars have been repaired in their life time and one should expect to have to re-repair any car that they buy.
Personally, I would want to buy a car that has not been recently refinished so that I might see any repairs needed.
Even if you were to purchase a daily driver you should budget in $1000 of repairs in the first several months.
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12-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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Here is a good example of what was a poor repair. Most would find this objectionalbe. Some wouldn't notice. You see varying degrees of this poor repair on many cars.
http://1963splitwindow.blogspot.com/...alignment.html
I wasn't referring to flyspecs in my post above.
http://1963splitwindow.blogspot.com/...alignment.html
I wasn't referring to flyspecs in my post above.
12-14-2016, 10:26 AM
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12-14-2016, 10:32 AM
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And a buyer has to also be aware of factory idiosyncrasies versus sham repairs...
The original fit of a 1963 rear valence comes to mind where the mantra is reversed; if it looks TOO good, its probably been massaged...
The original fit of a 1963 rear valence comes to mind where the mantra is reversed; if it looks TOO good, its probably been massaged...
12-14-2016, 10:36 AM
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What about all the over-restored cars you see, with the factory waviness block sanded out and the car clear coated like a glazed ham? To me, that de-values the car, as the original body has been modified, although it now looks 'nicer' to the majority of folks. I like original survivor cars, restored cars, and tastefully modified cars....but I'm not a fan of over-restored Barrett-Jackson cars that have had all their age and history completely erased. What say your guys?
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12-14-2016, 11:05 AM
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Some people pay extra when they can see every bonding strip and body reinforcement through the paint where the bonding adhesive has shrunk over the years. I'm one of them. If you can see every point you know right off that the body panels are original or it's been a very long time since work was done.
Many repaints include block sanding and this obliterates the evidence.
Many repaints include block sanding and this obliterates the evidence.
What about all the over-restored cars you see, with the factory waviness block sanded out and the car clear coated like a glazed ham? To me, that de-values the car, as the original body has been modified, although it now looks 'nicer' to the majority of folks. I like original survivor cars, restored cars, and tastefully modified cars....but I'm not a fan of over-restored Barrett-Jackson cars that have had all their age and history completely erased. What say your guys?
12-14-2016, 11:45 AM
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Don't know about positive, just realistic. I would guess most of the guys on this forum are in their 60's or 70's. We are more likely to bad health and death then a younger crowd. I'm sure some of you know a person who a year ago was not thinking about selling their car but due to life changes is..
12-14-2016, 11:59 AM
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What about all the over-restored cars you see, with the factory waviness block sanded out and the car clear coated like a glazed ham? To me, that de-values the car, as the original body has been modified, although it now looks 'nicer' to the majority of folks. I like original survivor cars, restored cars, and tastefully modified cars....but I'm not a fan of over-restored Barrett-Jackson cars that have had all their age and history completely erased. What say your guys?
Look at this common gap I see on midyears and particularly '63 coupes at the door-to-fender upper transition. Look at the second pic of the top of my driver's door ? The regional exterior judge said that last item was factory but prob the poorest fit he'd seen in that area... Must be over 1/4" of door 'meat' over top of the windshield "A" pillar... Both doors have the factory job number that matches the splash shield and other areas and have been painstakingly fitted...and are completely closed in the pictures...
FTF
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12-14-2016, 12:04 PM
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Don't believe everything an NCRS judge tells you.
12-14-2016, 12:07 PM
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12-14-2016, 01:10 PM
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Here is a question for the mid-year wizards. My 66 I put an entire brand new press molded Shermshiem front end on with all the bonding strips and everything. So is my car considered a no hit body? The front end has never been hit and I bet 95% of the people wouldn't know it was a new front end if I didn't say anything........
12-14-2016, 01:24 PM
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Here is a question for the mid-year wizards. My 66 I put an entire brand new press molded Shermshiem front end on with all the bonding strips and everything. So is my car considered a no hit body? The front end has never been hit and I bet 95% of the people wouldn't know it was a new front end if I didn't say anything........
12-14-2016, 01:26 PM
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Ha! You either want perfection or factory fit...
Look at this common gap I see on midyears and particularly '63 coupes at the door-to-fender upper transition. Look at the second pic of the top of my driver's door ? The regional exterior judge said that last item was factory but prob the poorest fit he'd seen in that area... Must be over 1/4" of door 'meat' over top of the windshield "A" pillar... Both doors have the factory job number that matches the splash shield and other areas and have been painstakingly fitted...and are completely closed in the pictures...
FTF
Look at this common gap I see on midyears and particularly '63 coupes at the door-to-fender upper transition. Look at the second pic of the top of my driver's door ? The regional exterior judge said that last item was factory but prob the poorest fit he'd seen in that area... Must be over 1/4" of door 'meat' over top of the windshield "A" pillar... Both doors have the factory job number that matches the splash shield and other areas and have been painstakingly fitted...and are completely closed in the pictures...
FTF
Drivers side doesn't have that gap.
12-14-2016, 01:35 PM
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Here is a question for the mid-year wizards. My 66 I put an entire brand new press molded Shermshiem front end on with all the bonding strips and everything. So is my car considered a no hit body? The front end has never been hit and I bet 95% of the people wouldn't know it was a new front end if I didn't say anything........
VBR,
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12-14-2016, 01:59 PM
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I know, I was joking around of course I know that it wasn't a serious question. Sarcasm doesn't go over well on the internet.
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12-14-2016, 02:19 PM
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I've never owned any other 60's era cars except for way back in the day when they were new. So, I'm curious about those of you who do own these metal body cars if the panel fit is noticeably superior to the 60's era Corvettes? Is the panel fit consistent from vehicle to vehicle of the same model or are they all over the place like Corvettes?
Steve
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