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Old 02-10-2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lars
You're implying that you need to dyno test every car and engine to get a distributor set up right - they make distributor machines for a reason.. Or are you advocating running the car through redline on the street to take data? I have done enough dyno testing over the past 30 years to be able to get these distributors set up so close that they all run extremely well. I don't need to flog a customer car to know they will run well.

I have no idea why you have a problem with me. Glad you have your car set up the way you like it.

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I don't have a problem with you. You do great work. For the benefit of most people who have no idea what is involved in tuning an engine, I have to say that once an engine is no longer in stock configuration, then engine-specific tuning becomes necessary.

The majority of people here have stock engines and in these cases what you do is just fine. No insult intended.

Just so you know: I modified my distributor to baseline 20 degrees spark advance @ 900 RPM (idle). The centrifugal advance is limited to an additional 16 degrees for a WOT total of 36 degrees, all in by 2300 RPM. The vacuum advance is adjustable, and limited to 12 degrees. I don't think you would do that to someone's distributor based on a phone conversation.

My combustion chambers are compact, and so respond better to 36 degrees total advance rather than 38 degrees for standard wedge heads or 40 degrees for open chamber smog heads.

Relax, have a great day, and have a few beers.

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Old 02-10-2017, 07:37 PM
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Actually, your setup is almost identical to the setups I use on most modest performance engines, depending on the info I receive from the owner: I set them up for 18 initial, 18 centrifugal (for 36 total), all-in at 2800-3000, and I limit the vacuum advance to 11-12 degrees. On my own 407 engine, with a solid roller cam and better heads than stock, I run 24 initial with only 8 degrees centrifugal for 32 total, all-in at 2500 (that's where the dyno showed best power and torque), with 11 degrees vacuum. On more modest street engines, I set them up for 16 initial, 20 centrifugal (for 36 total), all-in at, or slightly before, 3000, with 12 degrees from vacuum. These are generic "recipes" that work very well if you can place the specific engine into a "group" of general performance.

...and no offense taken. You need to stop by for a beer at my bar.

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Old 04-19-2017, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bluzrocker
just going to wait for you to report your observations and comparisons when it's back in..

would like to know what engine you have and what year Vette you have pls...
I just returned from our winter home in Florida and couldn't wait to get in the garage to drop the distributor (rebuilt by Lars) back in the car. It started right up and then I timed it to:
18 degrees centrifugal advance
Curve starts at 800 rpm
Full advance all in at 2800 rpm
Dwell set at 30.3 Degrees
Set timing to 18 degrees below 750 rpm, or set for 36 total
Vac advance starts at 6.5"
Full vac advance 11 degrees at 11".
Went for the inaugural test drive and I couldn't believe the difference. I had a smile on my face from ear to ear. It was like a rocket. My sidepies even sounded better,lol. Thank you Lars for a job well done.
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Yup - Lars even 'woke up' my lil ole 63 250 hp mill...
Old 04-19-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Yup - Lars even 'woke up' my lil ole 63 250 hp mill...
I did same thing 2 months ago. Car never ran this good.
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Originally Posted by lars
Actually, your setup is almost identical to the setups I use on most modest performance engines, depending on the info I receive from the owner: I set them up for 18 initial, 18 centrifugal (for 36 total), all-in at 2800-3000, and I limit the vacuum advance to 11-12 degrees. On my own 407 engine, with a solid roller cam and better heads than stock, I run 24 initial with only 8 degrees centrifugal for 32 total, all-in at 2500 (that's where the dyno showed best power and torque), with 11 degrees vacuum. On more modest street engines, I set them up for 16 initial, 20 centrifugal (for 36 total), all-in at, or slightly before, 3000, with 12 degrees from vacuum. These are generic "recipes" that work very well if you can place the specific engine into a "group" of general performance.

...and no offense taken. You need to stop by for a beer at my bar.

Lars
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Originally Posted by lars
Actually, your setup is almost identical to the setups I use on most modest performance engines, depending on the info I receive from the owner: I set them up for 18 initial, 18 centrifugal (for 36 total), all-in at 2800-3000, and I limit the vacuum advance to 11-12 degrees. On my own 407 engine, with a solid roller cam and better heads than stock, I run 24 initial with only 8 degrees centrifugal for 32 total, all-in at 2500 (that's where the dyno showed best power and torque), with 11 degrees vacuum. On more modest street engines, I set them up for 16 initial, 20 centrifugal (for 36 total), all-in at, or slightly before, 3000, with 12 degrees from vacuum. These are generic "recipes" that work very well if you can place the specific engine into a "group" of general performance.

...and no offense taken. You need to stop by for a beer at my bar.

Lars
Originally Posted by Daren67
I did same thing 2 months ago. Car never ran this good.
Lars has rebuilt 2 distributors for me and provided advice on numerous occasions...Car runs great thanks to him !!
Old 04-24-2017, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lars
$130 if all major components are reuseable. Tommy's disatributor was so bad that the only component that could be reused was the distributor housing, and even it had to be machined and repaired due to massive thrust surface damage and trashed bushings.
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Lars, Just sent you an email. I'm ready to send in my L79 distributor for inspection and rebuild.

Tom
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I respect anyone who can get a distributor to run correct with so many different variables. However , No one was able to set my engine distributor correct, and carburetor, except, Mr. Lars Grimsrud. It has been, many many miles since then!
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Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
I don't have a problem with you. You do great work. For the benefit of most people who have no idea what is involved in tuning an engine,
Wow, didn't know Lars rebuilding my 63 distributor would make me have to turn in my man card...

Now I have to wrestle with the revelation that I have no idea how to tune an engine. After all these years.

Oh...the humanity!



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