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Old 05-11-2017, 05:04 PM
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Here's a little-known way to determine year: look at at the relative side emblem location below (63 on the top - fake 63 on bottom):

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When I first saw that listing he wasn't trying to pass it off as a 63SWC. The add said it was a 64 with a 63 rear section. So I do think it's a acam or maybe someone bought it and thinks they can pass it off as a 63SWC.

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I called him, it is reposted again. He was wondering how I knew it was not a 63 frame? How could I tell it was not 63 rear window trim? When I told him I was an educated buyer he then he said it is not his car. This is some ones 64 cp.
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Originally Posted by Vettrocious
Well, certainly, it could be the 30,837th car built after the start of 63 production....
I don't think so, they only built 21,513 total coupes and convertibles both. So there is no way it could be the 30,837th one built.
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Originally Posted by biggd
When I first saw that listing he wasn't trying to pass it off as a 63SWC. The add said it was a 64 with a 63 rear section. So I do think it's a acam or maybe someone bought it and thinks they can pass it off as a 63SWC.
Yeah but the rear section if you look at the louvers behind the doors are from a 64 not from a 63.
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Originally Posted by Vettrocious
Here's a little-known way to determine year: look at at the relative side emblem location below (63 on the top - fake 63 on bottom):

OK, what am I not seeing? It's probably staring me in the face but I'll admit I don't see what difference we're talking about.
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Originally Posted by Mike Terry
I don't think so, they only built 21,513 total coupes and convertibles both. So there is no way it could be the 30,837th one built.
Yeah, I know, Mike, that was my point: the 30,837th car built after the start of 63 production would be a '64.
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The knowledge on this forum of the details of these cars amaze me.

You guys know your stuff. Hope someone is not being scammed on this one.
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
OK, what am I not seeing? It's probably staring me in the face but I'll admit I don't see what difference we're talking about.
If we could blow up the door handles up the 63s would be raised along with the locks
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Originally Posted by rtruman
If we could blow up the door handles up the 63s would be raised along with the locks
Raised as in sticking out farther from the body?
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
Raised as in sticking out farther from the body?
Here is a good photo of my car.

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Originally Posted by Railroadman
OK, what am I not seeing? It's probably staring me in the face but I'll admit I don't see what difference we're talking about.
The 64 side emblem is a little further forward...
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The doors are very hard to fake on a coupe for 63...in addition to the raised door handle/lock pads as shown above, you have the stainless trim piece that goes forward of the vent window in a one-year-only recessed area of the door...
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Originally Posted by Rich Yanulis
Here is a good photo of my car.

I see exactly what you mean - thanks!

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The 64 side emblem is a little further forward...
I can't see it from those pics - the lines for the doors, and the fronts of the side louvers, don't quite line up or something. I'm not doubting, just not getting there from the pic posted.
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The emblems are clearly in different positions...
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The only thing that gets me is the line on roof to rear window ,Tell me sometime along the way piecing this car together .They did sell roof pieces during the 80s .
A 64 that flipped over in a accident would make that argument ,with no vin makes it more so. I could tell what this car is in person Look at the side picture of driver side all
points to a 64 corvette.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
The emblems are clearly in different positions...
Using those blue lines as a reference, so are the fronts of the horizontal louvers - the black car's is farther forward. The orange Vette's is just barely to the right of the blue line, and the black one's is father to the right of the blue line. Thus the reference point is off.

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By adding a few additional vertical lines, it seems apparent that other than possibly the leading edge of the car, the trailing edge of the car and the rear wheel centerline, there is little else that actually lines up on those two cars. Particularly so from the door handle forward.



There appears to be some distortion (or pretty bad bodywork?) in at least one of the images. I certainly wouldn't consider them proof that the side emblems are positioned differently on the '63-'64 Corvette.

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As somebody already stated, several of you guy's are a wealth of information!

I keep going out to my recently purchased '63......Gas cap cover....check.....raised door around the handles and locks.....check......ashtray identification......check......tool tray area under the seats.....check! LOL!!

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By just adding three parallel lines to the emblems and the leading edge of the top horizontal louver, the emblems appear to be positioned in the same relative positions.



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