Parts Prices, where are they going ?
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I will respond to this as I believe one of the examples the OP pointed out is mine.
"passenger car 283s over 2k." The engine I have for sale is currently running in my 57 Corvette and is a 57 passenger car 4 barrel with PG.
I priced this engine in accordance to what I am encountering currently with my engine build. I needed an older 327 with draft tube for my new 383 engine build I paid 600 for a bare block including shipping and it is NOT anything special as in a "corvette block.". If I were o build this engine to just stock specs having to buy heads, springs, cam, crank, rods, pistons, bolts, gaskets, intake, carb, etc, etc. It would be WELL over $3000. The engine I have for sale has value to either a 57 Chevy owner or a 57 Corvette owner that needs one for numbers matching or number close for show and judging. Most of those cars see few miles and this would be a perfect good running non-smoking engine for that person. It usually just takes a while to find that buyer.
"passenger car 283s over 2k." The engine I have for sale is currently running in my 57 Corvette and is a 57 passenger car 4 barrel with PG.
I priced this engine in accordance to what I am encountering currently with my engine build. I needed an older 327 with draft tube for my new 383 engine build I paid 600 for a bare block including shipping and it is NOT anything special as in a "corvette block.". If I were o build this engine to just stock specs having to buy heads, springs, cam, crank, rods, pistons, bolts, gaskets, intake, carb, etc, etc. It would be WELL over $3000. The engine I have for sale has value to either a 57 Chevy owner or a 57 Corvette owner that needs one for numbers matching or number close for show and judging. Most of those cars see few miles and this would be a perfect good running non-smoking engine for that person. It usually just takes a while to find that buyer.
Bottom line, one can ask any value in the sky. Finding the person willing to part with dollar amount is the task. Often used phrase, " it came out of a Corvette " will be used to add sparkle to the description. Power plants in many GM affiliates should be attached with wing nuts as fast as they are removed and replaced.
Nothing personal, just my view of what I believed was a hobby turned into an investment club. Sitting on seven examples at yesterdays prices it not a huge concern. Its like watching stock prices double and triple. I read and wonder how deep some are buried in a partial build only to sell as a project to recoup some of their income. It is America and choice is the law of the land. An ad with seven " to the top" indicators is not the exception but lately the rule. Good luck to all the leading price indicators. I'm still debating on the $250. wing nut......... NOT !!!
For those of you on the edge of your seat,... relax. Repeat after me, its only a car, its only a car.
#23
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I was wondering if anyone else had an opinion on shipping costs. Those small parts, which cost a few dollars are annoying me. I've learned to "Bundle" my purchases. Sometimes the part weighs a mere oz. or two. And the shipping cost is 16$ Does any vender have real "free" shipping. I would think the Forum members would better support those who ship for free. My 2 cents. Thx, Chuck
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A dear friend of mine, and a long time member of the Corvette community, went to work for one of the major Corvette aftermarket suppliers many years ago as their "resident original Corvette expert".
He tole me that this company made a good bit of their profit on shipping charges.
I can believe that...I ordered a label for a 1973 Corvette A/C compressor, and the shipping charges were $5 (on a $3 part). The label was stuck in an envelope and mailed to me (cost was less than a dollar).
I complained and got $3 back on shipping.
The operative phrase is "shipping and handling".
Buyer beware.
He tole me that this company made a good bit of their profit on shipping charges.
I can believe that...I ordered a label for a 1973 Corvette A/C compressor, and the shipping charges were $5 (on a $3 part). The label was stuck in an envelope and mailed to me (cost was less than a dollar).
I complained and got $3 back on shipping.
The operative phrase is "shipping and handling".
Buyer beware.
#25
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One aspect to take notice of is your engine is a used take out. There is no certified document of condition, parts, warranty, or professional assembler . A 283 is not the choice, crown jewel, or highly sought after power plant bolted between modern frame rails. A non smoking engine tells me little about the internal condition. 283s, 305s, 307s, used values range from a couple hundred to less than a thousand.
Bottom line, one can ask any value in the sky. Finding the person willing to part with dollar amount is the task. Often used phrase, " it came out of a Corvette " will be used to add sparkle to the description. Power plants in many GM affiliates should be attached with wing nuts as fast as they are removed and replaced.
Nothing personal, just my view of what I believed was a hobby turned into an investment club. Sitting on seven examples at yesterdays prices it not a huge concern. Its like watching stock prices double and triple. I read and wonder how deep some are buried in a partial build only to sell as a project to recoup some of their income. It is America and choice is the law of the land. An ad with seven " to the top" indicators is not the exception but lately the rule. Good luck to all the leading price indicators. I'm still debating on the $250. wing nut......... NOT !!!
For those of you on the edge of your seat,... relax. Repeat after me, its only a car, its only a car.
Bottom line, one can ask any value in the sky. Finding the person willing to part with dollar amount is the task. Often used phrase, " it came out of a Corvette " will be used to add sparkle to the description. Power plants in many GM affiliates should be attached with wing nuts as fast as they are removed and replaced.
Nothing personal, just my view of what I believed was a hobby turned into an investment club. Sitting on seven examples at yesterdays prices it not a huge concern. Its like watching stock prices double and triple. I read and wonder how deep some are buried in a partial build only to sell as a project to recoup some of their income. It is America and choice is the law of the land. An ad with seven " to the top" indicators is not the exception but lately the rule. Good luck to all the leading price indicators. I'm still debating on the $250. wing nut......... NOT !!!
For those of you on the edge of your seat,... relax. Repeat after me, its only a car, its only a car.
I may have one for sale for $200 !
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To JR 427
If you are just looking for ANY OLD 283 then you are exactly right. OTOH, the 283s that do have special value are the 1957-1961s that restorers are looking for. Mine will sell when the guy that NEEDS that particular date comes along. The fact that it is a non-smoking good running engine is all that will be important to that buyer because it will likely end up in a car going on and off of a trailer for judging and shows OR they want a numbers engine for resale. Who else wants a numbers matching car? If they want to drive the car anymore than that they would do like I am doing and build a $5000.+ engine with more cubes and power. Think of how many people out there HAVE a numbers matching engine sitting on a stand with a driver engine in the car.
This my friend is why my engine is worth what it is worth and I don't care if it takes a year or more for the buyer that needs it comes along.
For the record, I just spent $600. for a bare block pre 68 327 just so I could have a draft tube. So I guess you can call me a WINGNUT for paying that price. I had people contact me with other blocks that wanted twice that because they feel that the early 327s have value for the same reason I think my 283 has value.
If you are just looking for ANY OLD 283 then you are exactly right. OTOH, the 283s that do have special value are the 1957-1961s that restorers are looking for. Mine will sell when the guy that NEEDS that particular date comes along. The fact that it is a non-smoking good running engine is all that will be important to that buyer because it will likely end up in a car going on and off of a trailer for judging and shows OR they want a numbers engine for resale. Who else wants a numbers matching car? If they want to drive the car anymore than that they would do like I am doing and build a $5000.+ engine with more cubes and power. Think of how many people out there HAVE a numbers matching engine sitting on a stand with a driver engine in the car.
This my friend is why my engine is worth what it is worth and I don't care if it takes a year or more for the buyer that needs it comes along.
For the record, I just spent $600. for a bare block pre 68 327 just so I could have a draft tube. So I guess you can call me a WINGNUT for paying that price. I had people contact me with other blocks that wanted twice that because they feel that the early 327s have value for the same reason I think my 283 has value.
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To JR 427
If you are just looking for ANY OLD 283 then you are exactly right. OTOH, the 283s that do have special value are the 1957-1961s that restorers are looking for. Mine will sell when the guy that NEEDS that particular date comes along. The fact that it is a non-smoking good running engine is all that will be important to that buyer because it will likely end up in a car going on and off of a trailer for judging and shows OR they want a numbers engine for resale. Who else wants a numbers matching car? If they want to drive the car anymore than that they would do like I am doing and build a $5000.+ engine with more cubes and power. Think of how many people out there HAVE a numbers matching engine sitting on a stand with a driver engine in the car.
This my friend is why my engine is worth what it is worth and I don't care if it takes a year or more for the buyer that needs it comes along.
For the record, I just spent $600. for a bare block pre 68 327 just so I could have a draft tube. So I guess you can call me a WINGNUT for paying that price. I had people contact me with other blocks that wanted twice that because they feel that the early 327s have value for the same reason I think my 283 has value.
If you are just looking for ANY OLD 283 then you are exactly right. OTOH, the 283s that do have special value are the 1957-1961s that restorers are looking for. Mine will sell when the guy that NEEDS that particular date comes along. The fact that it is a non-smoking good running engine is all that will be important to that buyer because it will likely end up in a car going on and off of a trailer for judging and shows OR they want a numbers engine for resale. Who else wants a numbers matching car? If they want to drive the car anymore than that they would do like I am doing and build a $5000.+ engine with more cubes and power. Think of how many people out there HAVE a numbers matching engine sitting on a stand with a driver engine in the car.
This my friend is why my engine is worth what it is worth and I don't care if it takes a year or more for the buyer that needs it comes along.
For the record, I just spent $600. for a bare block pre 68 327 just so I could have a draft tube. So I guess you can call me a WINGNUT for paying that price. I had people contact me with other blocks that wanted twice that because they feel that the early 327s have value for the same reason I think my 283 has value.
#30
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This vey same discussion is taking place over on several of the Porsche forums.
I think it's part of the Amazon complex. We all want free shipping. Think Prime. And we want low prices to go with the free shipping.
BTW - selling one wing nut does not establish a market. Just sayn'
My own feeing is that it someone wants to pay $300 for a wing nut I could actually care less. It's a free market economy.
Richard Newton
Even Low Tech is Expensive
I think it's part of the Amazon complex. We all want free shipping. Think Prime. And we want low prices to go with the free shipping.
BTW - selling one wing nut does not establish a market. Just sayn'
My own feeing is that it someone wants to pay $300 for a wing nut I could actually care less. It's a free market economy.
Richard Newton
Even Low Tech is Expensive
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Fuelie Dave knows what he has and what things are worth, so does Vette Lady, so does Grossmuellers and so does David Sokolowski...
Corvette-Stop has quite high prices but they are very negotiable; especially if you buy multiple items.... Pristine original items command a premium, the rarer and nicer, the higher the cost, even rebuildable cores have creeped up. I used to find WCFB rebuildable core carbs for $75; hard to find 'em for less than $225 now if they are Corvette carbs...that's over about a 12 year span..
Bingo, checkers and binge watching "Game of Thrones" are cheap hobbies; owning classic Corvettes is not...
Shipping is shipping; and yes when gas spiked everybody justified a big bump in this cost and none of 'em have retreated from that high point.
Friends in the hobby are your best bet; especially if they're local. There are several in Florida with caches of parts they are slowly selling off. I got 61 grill eyebrows in the GM boxes for a ridiculous price 3 years ago from a pal, and a PS rear split window, original, date-coded glass, pristine from another buddy for $100.
Corvette-Stop has quite high prices but they are very negotiable; especially if you buy multiple items.... Pristine original items command a premium, the rarer and nicer, the higher the cost, even rebuildable cores have creeped up. I used to find WCFB rebuildable core carbs for $75; hard to find 'em for less than $225 now if they are Corvette carbs...that's over about a 12 year span..
Bingo, checkers and binge watching "Game of Thrones" are cheap hobbies; owning classic Corvettes is not...
Shipping is shipping; and yes when gas spiked everybody justified a big bump in this cost and none of 'em have retreated from that high point.
Friends in the hobby are your best bet; especially if they're local. There are several in Florida with caches of parts they are slowly selling off. I got 61 grill eyebrows in the GM boxes for a ridiculous price 3 years ago from a pal, and a PS rear split window, original, date-coded glass, pristine from another buddy for $100.
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Fuelie Dave knows what he has and what things are worth, so does Vette Lady, so does Grossmuellers and so does David Sokolowski...
Corvette-Stop has quite high prices but they are very negotiable; especially if you buy multiple items.... Pristine original items command a premium, the rarer and nicer, the higher the cost, even rebuildable cores have creeped up. I used to find WCFB rebuildable core carbs for $75; hard to find 'em for less than $225 now if they are Corvette carbs...that's over about a 12 year span..
Bingo, checkers and binge watching "Game of Thrones" are cheap hobbies; owning classic Corvettes is not...
Shipping is shipping; and yes when gas spiked everybody justified a big bump in this cost and none of 'em have retreated from that high point.
Friends in the hobby are your best bet; especially if they're local. There are several in Florida with caches of parts they are slowly selling off. I got 61 grill eyebrows in the GM boxes for a ridiculous price 3 years ago from a pal, and a PS rear split window, original, date-coded glass, pristine from another buddy for $100.
Corvette-Stop has quite high prices but they are very negotiable; especially if you buy multiple items.... Pristine original items command a premium, the rarer and nicer, the higher the cost, even rebuildable cores have creeped up. I used to find WCFB rebuildable core carbs for $75; hard to find 'em for less than $225 now if they are Corvette carbs...that's over about a 12 year span..
Bingo, checkers and binge watching "Game of Thrones" are cheap hobbies; owning classic Corvettes is not...
Shipping is shipping; and yes when gas spiked everybody justified a big bump in this cost and none of 'em have retreated from that high point.
Friends in the hobby are your best bet; especially if they're local. There are several in Florida with caches of parts they are slowly selling off. I got 61 grill eyebrows in the GM boxes for a ridiculous price 3 years ago from a pal, and a PS rear split window, original, date-coded glass, pristine from another buddy for $100.