vjjack04

For those of you who have installed these, what one do you recommend. I will be running a TKO 600 5 speed.


J. Jackson
Hereford, AZ

wmf62

my recommendation is.... don't; the oem clutch system is more than adequate

but then, that isn't what you want to do....

Bill

vjjack04

Interesting. I did a search and found that there are various opinions on this. However, I am using an SRIII frame and while it have provision for the manual clutch, I am still going to use a Hydraulic Clutch. I can reinforce the firewall or use the Bowler version (of Hydraulic Master)...it doesn't use the firewall (uses the original clutch rod mount)..Bowler solution: https://www.bowlertransmissions.com/...let-reservoir/

wmf62

OK, the non-stock frame changes things...

personally, I don't like the idea of the slave cylinder being inside the bellhousing; IF there is a system with an external slave, then OK

Bill

cv67

had a hyd slave for yrs a manual will last forver, the hyd wont esp if the car sits a lot. Like anything its a trade off, light pedal vs-

if you like to powershift keep the manual.

65silververt

Call hurst driveline conversions! You don't want a standard mechanical clutch with a modern chassis.

65silververt

And don't use an external slave. Go with the hydraulic throw out bearing.

wmf62

why?

Bill

ILBMF

I've had bad luck with aftermarket hydraulic throwout bearings. 2 McLeod setups at over $500 each and 2 Ram setups. None of the 4 lasted more than 1 or 2 thousand miles. They typically may start to drip, then pop all at once leaving the pedal on the floor. This was on a Mustang. The best hydraulic throwout bearings are OEM style that use an accordion style boot to protect the seals from clutch dust. Other than that, I would also suggest an external slave just from my own experience.

Little red 63

I put a Napa complete clutch kit in my 65 mustang with a built 302 and couldn't be happier. I believe napa clutches are Luk brand.

65silververt

Why wouldn't you? The advantages of the hydraulic clutch are obvious.

65silververt

I just put a Tilton brand kit in my 67 Mustang Fastback restomod and it works well, but I don't have experience with the longevity of the kit. It is from modern driveline. I have order a lot of parts from them over the years and never had any issues.
With that said, it appears that Zip sells the accordion style kit. However, you will need to change out the front bearing retainer on the tremec TKO. Not a big deal, but if you go with this kit, make sure to seal the bearing retainer with anaerobic sealer. I made the mistake of using RTV on my first hydraulic conversion and had to pull the transmission back out due to fluid leaking from the retainer. RTV and transmission fluid do not get along well at all.
http://www.zip-corvette.com/55-82-hy...nsmission.html

wmf62

no they are not... they are expensive, they can leak, they are often slow reacting, and on and on...

Bill

biggd

I prefer the external slave to the internal throw out bearing type. They do leak and it's much easier to deal with that rather than removing the trans, JMO. I have a T56 6sp in mine out of a 1996 Camaro with the original slave cylinder. I installed a master cylinder from a 1985 Chevy pick up and hooked it all up together with a hose and connectors from Speedway. I had to glass in a metal support in the floor but it was inexpensive and I've had no issues for 4 years now. But if I do the parts are readily available from any parts store and easy to change. The trans already had the slave on it so the whole thing cost me about $100.

vjjack04

Really good info. Most of the kits are much more expensive than that, even though the whole deal is really pretty simple.

biggd

Forgot to mention the clutch master from a 1985 C20 Chevy PU has a long rod which you have to shorten and thread. Then I screwed a rod ball end on that bolted to the clutch pedal. The master will bolt up right were the hole is for the old clutch rod. That's where I glassed in an 1/8 thick metal plate. I got the Master at Napa for $27 and all the other pieces through Speedway.
It's also tricky to bleed. You can't bleed it like a brake system. If you have questions you can PM me.

68hemi

I have never liked the mussy feeling of a hydraulic clutch plus you can not power shift one.

65silververt

Bill, I'm not trying to argue, but how many have you used? For a stock car I think mechanical linkage is fine, but not for a full blown restomod. When properly set up, they will not have issues with reacting late or have a mushy feel as someone else mentioned. I'm not sure what the on and on is, but I doubt the list is long as it can only go so far. As far as leaks are concerned, well, I suppose that depends on the manufacturer.

65silververt

a T56 and a TKO 500 or 600 are totally different animals. Be careful

wmf62

i'd just as soon buy you a beer and BS rather than argue..

the ONLY personal problem experience I have had with a hydraulic clutch is with a MGA. the slave cylinder piston pushed out, hence no clutch..

only other use was a 93 ranger pickup, but I was appalled that you had to pull the transmission if you had problems...

I agree, if one doesn't have a problem, then there is no problem.. but, given the choice, I will never use one



Bill