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Old 07-01-2017, 03:31 PM
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Default '64 No rear parking lights.

While performing a normal preflight check, I noticed the rear parking lights are out. The rear turn signals and brake lights work and the front parking lights and turn signals are good. Headlights good also. A head scratcher for me. Anyone had this problem ?
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Have you checked the bulbs?

I know that for both to go out around the same time is uncommon but, I've seen stranger things happen.

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Did you have the headlight switch pulled to the first detent to the running lights or to the second detent to the headlights with no rear lights
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Have you checked the bulbs?

I know that for both to go out around the same time is uncommon but, I've seen stranger things happen.

Gary
Brake lights and turn single light is on a diffreant filament filament then running lights.
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Did you check the fuse marked tail lamps? Tail lamps don't go out when headlamps are on like front parking lights do, they burn in both positions. If you check, you'll probably find your dash lights are out too. When tail light fuse blows you also lose voltage feeding inst lamp fuse.

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Second fuse from bottom. Don't just look at it, measure it or replace it, it can be separated inside the glass at end cap

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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Brake lights and turn single light is on a diffreant filament filament then running lights.
And your point is???

65GGvert probably has the right solution.

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And your point is???

65GGvert probably has the right solution.

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That explains why one works and the other doesn't
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Did you have the headlight switch pulled to the first detent to the running lights or to the second detent to the headlights with no rear lights
Yep. Tried 1st and 2nd position. Had to in order to see if the front lights worked. Panel lights are also inop, no power to the panel light fuse clip. Suspect the green wire lug on the back side of the fuse block came off when re-attaching the fuse block after fixing a previous issue.
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Originally Posted by Gary's '66
Have you checked the bulbs?

I know that for both to go out around the same time is uncommon but, I've seen stranger things happen.

Gary
A long shot but I'll check.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Brake lights and turn single light is on a diffreant filament filament then running lights.
Correct.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
Second fuse from bottom. Don't just look at it, measure it or replace it, it can be separated inside the glass at end cap
Wow ! Didn't consider the end cap. Will replace it...you guys never cease to amaze me.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Brake lights and turn single light is on a diffreant filament filament then running lights.
Correct.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
Did you check the fuse marked tail lamps? Tail lamps don't go out when headlamps are on like front parking lights do, they burn in both positions. If you check, you'll probably find your dash lights are out too. When tail light fuse blows you also lose voltage feeding inst lamp fuse.
Well 65G, you nailed it. Dash lights ARE out, no power to the fuse clip. Either it's the fuse or the green wire on the back side of the fuse block got disconnected or pinched when re-installing the fuse block ,after fixing a previous issue. Incidentally all this car's wiring is amazing shape but naturally, the end connectors show their age.
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Originally Posted by dlaw7822
Well 65G, you nailed it. Dash lights ARE out, no power to the fuse clip. Either it's the fuse or the green wire on the back side of the fuse block got disconnected or pinched when re-installing the fuse block ,after fixing a previous issue. Incidentally all this car's wiring is amazing shape but naturally, the end connectors show their age.
He usually does
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Originally Posted by leif.anderson93
He usually does
Like your car....same color as mine. Works well in the hot Fla. sun.
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Originally Posted by dlaw7822
Well 65G, you nailed it. Dash lights ARE out, no power to the fuse clip. Either it's the fuse or the green wire on the back side of the fuse block got disconnected or pinched when re-installing the fuse block ,after fixing a previous issue. Incidentally all this car's wiring is amazing shape but naturally, the end connectors show their age.
The green wire off will kill your inst lamps, but not your tail lights. The tailights voltage comes from the same red wire that feeds your brake lights and they work. You've either got a bad fuse, fuse holder, or the BROWN wire on the second fuse up from the bottom may have come off. It could also be in the light switch or wire to it, but if you don't have 12v on both sides of the second fuse, the problem is right there at that spot in the fuse panel. Change the fuse first, then check this wire: That brown wire off will kill both your tail and inst lamps.



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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Brake lights and turn single light is on a diffreant filament filament then running lights.
Did you mean a different "fuse"?

Maybe I'm missing something. Since, as you say, they are "on different filaments" why isn't it possible for the brake and turn signal "filament" to work while the parking light "filament" can't be burnt out thus, there will be brake/turn signal but, no parking light?

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Originally Posted by Gary's '66
Did you mean a different "fuse"?

Maybe I'm missing something. Since, as you say, they are "on different filaments" why isn't it possible for the brake and turn signal "filament" to work while the parking light "filament" can't be burnt out thus, there will be brake/turn signal but, no parking light?

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I'm not answering for what he meant, but the tail and brake/turn signal filaments use different voltage sources, different wires, different fuses and different filaments in the bulb. The only common connection is the base of the bulb which is grounded. Anything can be wrong and one work and not the other except loss of ground.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
The green wire off will kill your inst lamps, but not your tail lights. The tailights voltage comes from the same red wire that feeds your brake lights and they work. You've either got a bad fuse, fuse holder, or the BROWN wire on the second fuse up from the bottom may have come off. It could also be in the light switch or wire to it, but if you don't have 12v on both sides of the second fuse, the problem is right there at that spot in the fuse panel. Change the fuse first, then check this wire: That brown wire off will kill both your tail and inst lamps.


Just looked at the back of the fuse panel and all wires are connected. It looks exactly like the one you provided. Cleaned the fuse clips, installed a new fuse, no joy. Corroded connectors on the back side, enough is enough . Ordered a new fuse panel. Thanks again for all your efforts.



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