Would like your input on a 64 for sale
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I agree with everyone so far.
It appears this car sat for quite a while in an unheated, possible damp floor, garage.
That is some heavy rust under the car especially in the rear.
I also appears that paint is very tired and has a lot of patina.
Are those bias ply tires?
I would have some one inspect the car first.
Joe
It appears this car sat for quite a while in an unheated, possible damp floor, garage.
That is some heavy rust under the car especially in the rear.
I also appears that paint is very tired and has a lot of patina.
Are those bias ply tires?
I would have some one inspect the car first.
Joe
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It's very hard to evaluate the rust from these photos. It would be simple for someone to check the frame at the areas most susceptible to serious rust damage (like the kickups) as well as the birdcage. None of those areas are visible in the photos.
If the rust is just cosmetic with no perforation or weakening of the structure, I think the car is a pretty decent deal. But if there's any perforation or even just some soft spots, I'd say nope.
From the photos, that rust does look like it could be pretty serious, so I'd tread carefully and would definitely want an inspection before any deal is done.
If the rust is just cosmetic with no perforation or weakening of the structure, I think the car is a pretty decent deal. But if there's any perforation or even just some soft spots, I'd say nope.
From the photos, that rust does look like it could be pretty serious, so I'd tread carefully and would definitely want an inspection before any deal is done.
#24
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I LOVE the color combo but it looks like the car will need attention everywhere in the next few years.
IF the frame is solid and IF the birdcage is solid and IF it runs out well, shifts, brakes, cools etc it is worth lower $30's. Probably realistic since it's priced in the mid $30's.
unless you paint yourself to a good standard- just be advised- paint alone will make your "marker purchase" be suddenly way underwater dollar wise. That isn't the last word on enjoying cars- I totally get that.
Oh, and one more IF - if you don't buy it, shoot me a PM, I would be interested.
good luck!
benton (also has an unrestored Daytona blue 64 driver)
IF the frame is solid and IF the birdcage is solid and IF it runs out well, shifts, brakes, cools etc it is worth lower $30's. Probably realistic since it's priced in the mid $30's.
unless you paint yourself to a good standard- just be advised- paint alone will make your "marker purchase" be suddenly way underwater dollar wise. That isn't the last word on enjoying cars- I totally get that.
Oh, and one more IF - if you don't buy it, shoot me a PM, I would be interested.
good luck!
benton (also has an unrestored Daytona blue 64 driver)
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Judging from the OPs location I am guessing the dealer is either Gateway Classics or Volo and if so you can bet they are asking more than the car is worth.
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If you think your 69 was a problem, this one will be twice that if you dont get it checked out.
Its a Michigan car I bet and seen hard weather .
It was well preserved from the oil on the bottom.
Take an educated person in Corvettes to check it out , I think with that rust it will be toast.
Its a Michigan car I bet and seen hard weather .
It was well preserved from the oil on the bottom.
Take an educated person in Corvettes to check it out , I think with that rust it will be toast.
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I agree with everyone so far.
It appears this car sat for quite a while in an unheated, possible damp floor, garage.
That is some heavy rust under the car especially in the rear.
I also appears that paint is very tired and has a lot of patina.
Are those bias ply tires?
I would have some one inspect the car first.
Joe
It appears this car sat for quite a while in an unheated, possible damp floor, garage.
That is some heavy rust under the car especially in the rear.
I also appears that paint is very tired and has a lot of patina.
Are those bias ply tires?
I would have some one inspect the car first.
Joe
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based on the background I can tell that the car is at GR Auto Gallery....The pictures on their website of the frame/suspension show even a lot more rust that the pictures that you posted. Also take a look at the close up pictures that they posted of the trim/chrome....the paint looks to be a lot worse than most of the pictures show but the reason for concern would be the frame. I grew up in Grand Rapids and owned my first Corvette there before moving away in 1981. The frame on my 72 needed replacement after less than 10 years being in Michigan and wasn't driven in winter after 1976 when I bought it. Be very cautious on this car, if you buy it you could be in line for spending as much far more than the purchase price for frame replacement, paint, etc. IMO $35,900 is all the money and then some for this car.
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If youre willing to keep it forever and throw the bank at it?
Too much rust for me, kind of a shame as it looks intact. Think that one will be a heartbreaker once you really poke into it-that exh was replaced awhile back probably from falling apart for starters
These cars are getting old sometimes it just isnt worth it.
Too much rust for me, kind of a shame as it looks intact. Think that one will be a heartbreaker once you really poke into it-that exh was replaced awhile back probably from falling apart for starters
These cars are getting old sometimes it just isnt worth it.
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Before you believe all of the horror stories posted here simply have the car looked at. It is not costly and will help you to determine either way if you should buy it. These vague pictures tell nothing. Is this typical surface rust or something more. Anyone who can tell from these pictures the quality of the paint should be a power ball winner by now. Seriously none of these pictures show much. The picture from directly in front looks like the hood fit and headlights gaps are nice. The interior appears older. But is it older original or older reproduction. If it is older original and still looks average it is a plus. If it is older reproduction and looks aged it is a minus. What if that paint is original paint? That is a big plus. How is the body under that paint? If unhit body big plus. If repaired minus. Need to see good pictures of the trim and vin tags as well as the stamp pad. Like I said if anyone can determine the condition of this car by pictures they are truly amazing. I will send you pictures of a car for sale that looked to have new paint,interior and chassis. The car turned out to have a one piece front end. The paint was very shiny but upon closer inspection had thousands of tiny bubbles. They never showed up even on close up pictures. Think total body acne. The frame as well had been blasted and painted and showed nice detail in photos. But it had several places filled with bondo,yes bondo. It truly looked great in pictures good at first glance in person. But as you can imagine not so much on the strong side. So in short go look at the car in person. Or have someone who really knows what they are looking at check the car over. Not just someone who owns one. Not just someone who used to own one. I have too many long time owners lately tell me how great,original and perfect their car cars were only to find shiny and sometimes not so shiny turds.
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With rust evident on the frame like that I'd have to personally poke around with an awl to check for holes, especially at the kicks behind the doors, the rear cross member, and the pads that the rear end hanger beam sits on. And of course the birdcage inspection. You HAVE to do it yourself or hire an expert to inspect it who has a lot of knowledge with those cars.
good luck
good luck
Tread carefully on the frame and birdcage. Also fuel and brake lines.
Larry
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It looks as though the car sat in a very damp area or has been exposed to road salt. I call a car like this a punkie car. Frame and birdcage could easily be punkie/ soft. Have an experienced body man look at the frame and birdcage. Use caution on that one. Dave
With rust evident on the frame like that I'd have to personally poke around with an awl to check for holes, especially at the kicks behind the doors, the rear cross member, and the pads that the rear end hanger beam sits on. And of course the birdcage inspection. You HAVE to do it yourself or hire an expert to inspect it who has a lot of knowledge with those cars.
good luck
good luck
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Before you believe all of the horror stories posted here simply have the car looked at. It is not costly and will help you to determine either way if you should buy it. These vague pictures tell nothing. Is this typical surface rust or something more. Anyone who can tell from these pictures the quality of the paint should be a power ball winner by now. Seriously none of these pictures show much. The picture from directly in front looks like the hood fit and headlights gaps are nice. The interior appears older. But is it older original or older reproduction. If it is older original and still looks average it is a plus. If it is older reproduction and looks aged it is a minus. What if that paint is original paint? That is a big plus. How is the body under that paint? If unhit body big plus. If repaired minus. Need to see good pictures of the trim and vin tags as well as the stamp pad. Like I said if anyone can determine the condition of this car by pictures they are truly amazing. I will send you pictures of a car for sale that looked to have new paint,interior and chassis. The car turned out to have a one piece front end. The paint was very shiny but upon closer inspection had thousands of tiny bubbles. They never showed up even on close up pictures. Think total body acne. The frame as well had been blasted and painted and showed nice detail in photos. But it had several places filled with bondo,yes bondo. It truly looked great in pictures good at first glance in person. But as you can imagine not so much on the strong side. So in short go look at the car in person. Or have someone who really knows what they are looking at check the car over. Not just someone who owns one. Not just someone who used to own one. I have too many long time owners lately tell me how great,original and perfect their car cars were only to find shiny and sometimes not so shiny turds.
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Last edited by Randy G.; 08-27-2017 at 09:20 PM.
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I see a LOT more than just surface rust. It appears to me there is heavy rust/ scale,with large pieces ready to flake off.
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That's pretty much a duplicate of my car, but fortunately I don't have that rust, everybody has already mentioned all the things YOU need to see in person. I also noticed something in the drivers side top louver which appears to be an alarm switch maybe? Small hole to fix but not the deal breaker that the missing cigarette lighter is....
I am impressed with that interior, it looks to be in very good shape as does the convertible top, but again, one can't tell very much from pictures alone, it will be worth every dime for that plane ticket if it turns out to be a turd when you get there......Best of luck, I hope it's all you want it to be. .....
I am impressed with that interior, it looks to be in very good shape as does the convertible top, but again, one can't tell very much from pictures alone, it will be worth every dime for that plane ticket if it turns out to be a turd when you get there......Best of luck, I hope it's all you want it to be. .....
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although $40k on a 64 conv. sounds like a great deal, I'm not sure if the dealer is locally to you or out of state, if its out of state and you really love the car, hire an expert to check it out thoroughly. If locally, bring an expert with you. $40k sounds really good but there's always a reason behind that. Best of luck :-)
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Rust and lots of leaks and mechanicals would be my concern with that car. Maybe paint. Needs a thorough inspection by someone knowledgable. This kind of a seemingly good deal can get you upside down very quickly sorting it out. May be worth a look. My bet is it's rusty.