Pouring White Smoke and ROUGH idle before dying... any thoughts
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Thanks Frankie!
Yes, I agree... some key things that really angered me about this guy:
1. Having young kids working on the car. 22 and 24 yr olds were replacing my carb and I dont think they really knew what they were doing.
2. Asking him what was done to the car, and having his response as "dont worry about it. I changed some things.. it runs great."
3. Telling me to "let the car warm up" after installing an electric choke. ( This was after it idled for 10 mins in his parking lot.. and still sputtered and coughed all the way home.)
4. Not using a key to start the car. He would pull it around from behind his shop.. and my key would be resting on the passenger seat.
5. Installed my clock ring when it fell off.. and GLUED it back on the leather. AAARRGHHHHH!
Yes, I agree... some key things that really angered me about this guy:
1. Having young kids working on the car. 22 and 24 yr olds were replacing my carb and I dont think they really knew what they were doing.
2. Asking him what was done to the car, and having his response as "dont worry about it. I changed some things.. it runs great."
3. Telling me to "let the car warm up" after installing an electric choke. ( This was after it idled for 10 mins in his parking lot.. and still sputtered and coughed all the way home.)
4. Not using a key to start the car. He would pull it around from behind his shop.. and my key would be resting on the passenger seat.
5. Installed my clock ring when it fell off.. and GLUED it back on the leather. AAARRGHHHHH!
The new carb looks good, I just hope this mechanic didn't cost you a head gasket (or worse)...
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And do not let this idiot work on your car again. He's clueless.
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Hollywoodheroes (09-24-2017)
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Hey Mike..
I let the jackass talk me into an Edlebrock and electric choke...
Actually to be more specific.. I didnt call for a couple of days and when I got there, he had already stuck them on my car!
I really hate myself for letting it get this bad.. but I swear, never again!
Jordan
I let the jackass talk me into an Edlebrock and electric choke...
Actually to be more specific.. I didnt call for a couple of days and when I got there, he had already stuck them on my car!
I really hate myself for letting it get this bad.. but I swear, never again!
Jordan
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Hey Mike..
I let the jackass talk me into an Edlebrock and electric choke...
Actually to be more specific.. I didnt call for a couple of days and when I got there, he had already stuck them on my car!
I really hate myself for letting it get this bad.. but I swear, never again!
Jordan
I let the jackass talk me into an Edlebrock and electric choke...
Actually to be more specific.. I didnt call for a couple of days and when I got there, he had already stuck them on my car!
I really hate myself for letting it get this bad.. but I swear, never again!
Jordan
The Edelbrock carb takes a different intake manifold than the WCFB. How did he manage around that?
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I had a new out of box Edelbrock carb once that had something stuck in the inlet seat keeping it open. Flooded the engine and was enough gas in the cylinder to pop the head gasket.
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Hollywoodheroes (09-25-2017)
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I suspect that the guy who changed the carb also changed the intake manifold, and it's sucking coolant through the intake due to a bad install. The intake has to be pulled off to remove the heads, anyway, if that's not it.
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That is where I was going but was waiting to hear a reply from the OP.
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Will let you know as soon as I get the car in... I am swamped with the New York Comic Con next week, which is what I do for a living. Probably get the car in second week of Oct.
Until then, Im not going to screw with it anymore. I tried to start it today.. and white smoke filled the entire garage. It sputtered hard for like one second and died.
I'm just going to leave it and take it into my new guy have the new carb stuck on... and find out whats going on.
Also, going to have him stick on a new fuel pump.. since I read in the tech manual they did an upgrade on early 64s with air.. like mine.
Will keep you all updated !
Jordan
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I truly hope thats all it is.
As I mentioned earlier.. this guy had two young kids working on classic cars while he sat in his office and chain smoked.
What really kills me is that as I was taking my car back... a guy came in with a 63 silver convertible.. asking him to install an entirely new interior and top.
I shutter to think what he is going to do to that car.
Jordan
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Did you check the mileage when you dropped it off? Twenty year olds working on it!! Sounds like they ran the **** out of it on there test ride. check the back quarters for rubber
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Yeah I did...
I did notice he filled the tank up a bit, saying he took it out for a test run.
I dont mind people driving my cars.. I think its the only way they can truly figure out whats wrong with them. But... I DO MIND getting them back broken.
I used to a vintage Mercedes 280sl, fully restored. Got it back from the mechanic one time to find cigarette butts in the ashtray ( which was never used and new)...
I asked him about it.. and he said he was test driving the car and had a smoke.
I flipped my **** on him...
J
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I mentioned many posts back that the intake manifold could have a crack in it. It could be cracked between the front water passage and an intake runner and sucking coolant. That's why I asked if your guy changed the manifold which he would have had to do unless he used some kind of adaptor. This could explain the white smoke that you didn't have before the carb swap. This is also why I suggested you check the spark plug appearance.
I've seen manifolds leak coolant out the top and out the front. Never seen one leak into the intake passage due to poor installation. Never seen changing a carb cause an engine to blow a head gasket and never seen a blown head gasket cause an engine to stall either but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
I wouldn't replace the fuel pump "just because". Many posts here claim some replacements are not reliable. If your old one is working, I'd keep it.
I've seen manifolds leak coolant out the top and out the front. Never seen one leak into the intake passage due to poor installation. Never seen changing a carb cause an engine to blow a head gasket and never seen a blown head gasket cause an engine to stall either but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
I wouldn't replace the fuel pump "just because". Many posts here claim some replacements are not reliable. If your old one is working, I'd keep it.
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I mentioned many posts back that the intake manifold could have a crack in it. It could be cracked between the front water passage and an intake runner and sucking coolant. That's why I asked if your guy changed the manifold which he would have had to do unless he used some kind of adaptor. This could explain the white smoke that you didn't have before the carb swap. This is also why I suggested you check the spark plug appearance.
I've seen manifolds leak coolant out the top and out the front. Never seen one leak into the intake passage due to poor installation. Never seen changing a carb cause an engine to blow a head gasket and never seen a blown head gasket cause an engine to stall either but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
I wouldn't replace the fuel pump "just because". Many posts here claim some replacements are not reliable. If your old one is working, I'd keep it.
I've seen manifolds leak coolant out the top and out the front. Never seen one leak into the intake passage due to poor installation. Never seen changing a carb cause an engine to blow a head gasket and never seen a blown head gasket cause an engine to stall either but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
I wouldn't replace the fuel pump "just because". Many posts here claim some replacements are not reliable. If your old one is working, I'd keep it.
To be honest.. the white smoke appeared really just this weekend. It was after I left the car sit after not driving it for two weeks. Between the white smoke and the oil leak under car... something went wrong.
I climbed under the car and car see oil dripping from the bottom of the engine.. so I am wondering it its dripping from higher up, and then trickling down.
J
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Pull the carb of and find out what they did. That should only take about 10 minutes to do. I bet the gasket is all messed up. At least it will show you if you have a problem.
Find another shop if you do not want to work on it or cannot do the work. Talk to some of the local clubs and find out who can do the work right. Are you sure its white smoke? Could be oil hitting the exhaust pipes burning off.
Find another shop if you do not want to work on it or cannot do the work. Talk to some of the local clubs and find out who can do the work right. Are you sure its white smoke? Could be oil hitting the exhaust pipes burning off.
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