[C2] Opinions on the deduction of color change
#41
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Truer words were never spoken. Why does there always have to be a deduct for some feature that is not like the book explains?
Some of you guys will be counting your money when you die. If you don't spend it all on foolishness first.
I thought this was a hobby, not a used car/banking business.
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#44
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More contrived confusion about originality vs value...
NCRS correctness doesn't necessarily contribute to maximum value (e.g. the case of restomods), but, you can't avoid "valuing" your car....for "agreed upon" insurance purposes if nothing else.
You can paint your car paisley if you want, if it doesn't match the BORN WITH trim tag I ain't interested... And I wouldn't count on a repro tag being undetectable...
And the beat goes on...
NCRS correctness doesn't necessarily contribute to maximum value (e.g. the case of restomods), but, you can't avoid "valuing" your car....for "agreed upon" insurance purposes if nothing else.
You can paint your car paisley if you want, if it doesn't match the BORN WITH trim tag I ain't interested... And I wouldn't count on a repro tag being undetectable...
And the beat goes on...
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That would certainly be the inexpensive way to "fix" it and when you think about since it is now painted an original color offered for 1966 it would really be no different than what Chevrolet would have done when it was new but that does not make it the right thing to do. And BTW there are people out there that CAN make an undetectable repo tag. This is why I continue to harp on the fact that we often don't really know what we are looking at or buying anymore these days.
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I see lot's of Riverside Red that isn't quite right and you're out of luck on '63 Sebring Silver.
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THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. That would be the polar opposite of the original intent "to restore cars to the way they left the factory." If it was ordered in a non standard color and it is not coded on the tag then they should accept it in an color. NOBODY is going to stripe their car an prime it to satisfy people that have their heads up their asses that made that decision. The only way that should apply is if it was coded for primer.
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THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. That would be the polar opposite of the original intent "to restore cars to the way they left the factory." If it was ordered in a non standard color and it is not coded on the tag then they should accept it in an color. NOBODY is going to stripe their car an prime it to satisfy people that have their heads up their asses that made that decision. The only way that should apply is if it was coded for primer.
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if the exterior judge is not friends with the owner/ painter then deducts are in order. however there are "clicks" who get away with things
#53
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You really should get back into the club. We miss you.
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I was never fortunate enough to own one of these cars back in the day when they were just used cars. That must have been nice.
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Never was a member. I started to join when the first edition '63 manual came out. My feeling was, if the "club" didn't know any better than that about '63, they didn't need me. I reckon things haven't changed much since then.
#56
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The club has changed significantly. But not insofar as 63s are concerned.
Come on, jump in, you might enjoy it. We would love to have you.
Course they would probably disown you in VHs.
Come on, jump in, you might enjoy it. We would love to have you.
Course they would probably disown you in VHs.
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I like the cars, don't care much for the show.
You'd be surprised how many VH's are ncrs members and maybe more surprised how many frequent here.
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#58
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No I wouldn't be surprised. I am friends with several of them.
On second thought it is probably best if you avoid the club.
It is not for everyone, and I think you may be the poster boy for that.
You'd have a great time in the bars in the evening with the gang though.
On second thought it is probably best if you avoid the club.
It is not for everyone, and I think you may be the poster boy for that.
You'd have a great time in the bars in the evening with the gang though.
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I am a member currently and was a very early member around 1976/77 but I never have played in their sandbox. I would likely never have a car judged. As many have eluded to there are clicks, favoritism and I would like to see a true accounting of where all the money goes that they collect for everything. There are good people at it's core but you can't police everything that goes on in a non-profit organization. The vast majority of non-profit fundraising organizations only forward about 12% of the take to the intended cause. Not saying that is the case with NCRS but I can speculate that there are shades of it. I think the founders of the organization would turn in their graves if they saw how it has morphed to what it is today and some of the STUPID decision that have been made like the one of this subject. Where is the common sense in that decision? These are the reasons I won't play in their sandbox.
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A while back they published how the money is distributed There are a few bad apples and clicks. But that doesn’t stop me from enjoying there core values. What they have done good or bad in the last 40 years has changed all car clubs and considered by most the standard how a car club should be. But it’s not for everyone and I understand that.